
Raising Elite Competitors
The GO TO PODCAST for Sports Moms raising confident girl athletes! Elite Competitor Co-Founder Coach Breanne Smedley (AKA Coach Bre) is all about empowering moms with the tools they need to strengthen their athlete daughter's mental game so she believes in herself as much as you do (and plays like it!). Whether you're a sports mom with lots of seasons under your belt, just getting started on this sports journey, or somewhere in between... think of this podcast as your go-to guide to helping your daughter navigate the ups and downs of her sports journey. If you feel like you've tried everything to build your daughter's confidence and often don't know what to say to support her (especially when she's being super hard on herself), then you're in the right place. Coach Bre and her guests break it down into actionable strategies that WORK so that you never have to feel stuck not knowing what to say or how to help your athlete daughter again. Through what you learn on the Raising Elite Competitors Podcast, you can ensure that your daughter's mental game and confidence is her biggest strength... in sports AND life!
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Raising Elite Competitors
Is The Elite Mental Game Really Worth It? These Parents Answer Honestly
Is mental training for young athletes actually worth it? If you’ve tried pep talks, advice, or even therapy and still feel stuck, this episode brings you real parent stories that lay it all out. Hear how two families faced mental struggles, found new tools, and saw their athletes regain confidence and love for their sports.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
- How common parenting pep talks might be doing more harm than good
- Why including parents in mental training makes a big difference
- How hesitant teens can be gently introduced to mental skills
- What real confidence looks like beyond "just be confident"
- Creative ways busy athletes fit mental training into their day
- The power of live community calls and coach texting support
- Differences between mental training and therapy approaches
- How these mental skills also help in non-sport performance areas
- What the no-risk, two-week trial means for families trying it out
Curious about the honest ups and downs these parents experienced? Ready to hear how mental training brought peace, focus, and fun back to their families?
Listen to the full episode now. You won’t want to miss a minute!
Episode Highlights:
[00:00] Introduction to Real Parent Stories. Two parents share honest experiences about how the Elite Mental Game program helped their daughters overcome mental struggles in sports.
[00:01:00] Chris’s Daughter’s Mental Challenges. Chris talks about her 15-year-old volleyball player who used to break down in tears at tournaments and how traditional pep talks made things worse.
[00:01:30] Carlos’s Daughter Nearly Quitting Gymnastics. Carlos shares his daughter’s loss of confidence and how nothing was working until they joined the program.
[00:06:00] Presenting the Program to Teens. Chris and Carlos discuss their approaches to getting their daughters on board without making it feel like something was wrong.
[00:12:30] Overcoming Mental Blocks and Shifting Mindset. Carlos shares how his daughter went from struggling with confidence to trusting herself and enjoying her sport again.
[00:22:00] How Mental Training Fits Busy Schedules. The parents describe how their daughters fit 15-60 minutes of mental training into their busy days, including during car rides and before practices.
[00:46:00] What Parents Gain from the Program. The program helps parents redefine their role, to support without over-coaching or pressuring, and improves family communication.
[00:52:00] Mental Training vs. Therapy and Other Programs. Carlos explains how previous therapy didn’t help but the practical, tool-focused approach of this program did.
[00:58:00] Easy Getting Started and Lifetime Access. Athletes get clear, self-paced steps to begin, plus lifetime access to materials and parent support communities.
[01:01:00] Recap: Building Trust, Confidence, and Joy. Mental training builds trusting self-confidence, equips for challenges, and helps athletes enjoy their sport, while parents learn effective support.
Next Steps:
- Join our FREE Training for Sports Moms - How to Strengthen Your Athlete Daughter's Mental Game so She Believes in Herself as Much as You Do
- Visit our podcast website for more great episodes
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Welcome back to the Raising Elite Competitors podcast. I'm Coach Bre, a mental performance coach for girl athletes, and I'm so excited you're here for a really special episode. I actually got to sit down with two parents of athletes who have gone through. Our program, the Elite Mental Game. Now this is our signature self-paced mental training program for girl athletes, designed for girl athletes age 12 to 18 to help them level up their mental game so they get more confident and play their sport to their potential, enjoy their sport. Again, and I know a lot of you are just curious, like what, what do we actually do in the program? What skills do athletes learn and what results. Can actually happen. And so I got to sit down with Chris and Carlos who got to lay it all out from a, like a real perspective of this is how it worked for our family. So you hear from Chris, she's a mom of six who's 15-year-old daughter played volleyball and she used to spiral into tears at almost every tournament. And the pep talks that Chris was hoping would land things like shake it off and you got the next one only made things worse. But after starting EMG. Chris says this has been their most peaceful season yet no meltdowns. Just a confident athlete who now uses her snapback routine and even applies the breathing twirls outside of sports, which is pretty awesome. You're also gonna meet Carlos. He's a dad of three whose level nine gymnast daughter went from loving her sport to nearly quitting. And nothing. He tried quotes, pep talks, even therapy seemed to help. And she finally told him, please stop. This isn't working. And so they joined EMG, and within weeks of joining, she overcame a mental block, started smiling again, and told her Dad, I actually enjoy my sport again. So these are real parents. With real athletes seeing real change, and I cannot wait for you to listen to their stories. So without further ado, enjoy this panel conversation with Chris and Carlos. Okay. Welcome moms and dads, to our panel. So if you are just wondering a little bit about like, you know, EMG sounds great. Maybe you've been hearing about it over this past week. You've been to a live training, but you're like, I just wanna hear it from somebody who has been through it. Well, this is for you. So, in a second I'll have Chris introduce herself, Carlos as well, but maybe Carlos just in the chat, if we can't get audio to figure to connect, just so that you can get some i an idea of, you know, actual parents who have been through it, who are using this with their athletes and kinda understanding what the results are that they're getting. So let's get going. Chris, I will have you introduce yourself first. Tell us a little bit, about your daughter, her age, sports that she plays. If you have more than one athlete, give us the dates. Awesome. Well, we actually have six kids. So one that I joined this for is our last one. All the rest I have launched and they're out doing their own. We have one in college playing, college, baseball. But my daughter that I joined this for was, she's 15. She was just going into a new club season and I've just been playing volleyball for six or seven years. And, I just felt like I needed to be proactive. I felt like this was going to be a tough, mental season for her. Mm-hmm. Um, she was being pulled up. She should have been playing in like 15 sixteens and rumor was she was going to be pulled up to the eighteens. Oh. Um, And, we just were concerned that maybe there were some personality challenges that she was gonna have in this coaching season. So we were trying to be proactive. And I also had recognized from past seasons that the more I'm like giving these pep talks and these encouragement and things, it seemed like it did the opposite of help. And so I was like, okay, I need some help here. Mm-hmm. I didn't know there was any program out there that helped with the mom. And so, I was just starting to look for mental performance coaching for her. She had done a short program in the past. And, so when I came onto this one, I was like, oh my gosh, this is so good. I need help and how to communicate with my daughter because I, I knew it just from past experience that whatever I was doing wasn't working. Mm-hmm. And so I stumbled onto this program. He had some like free, information or free training, that you had put out there. And we were just going into, I can't remember if it's just a tournament or a game, but we were going into something and I was like, I'm gonna try these couple little tips you had. Yeah. And I noticed right off the bat, that I'll have more peace and that she responded differently. So, then we, I took the next step to, to join. Yeah. Okay. That's great. Can't wait to hear like kind of how this story unfolds, but I love that you started from your side because that is a unique, we always talk about like, our approach to mental training is a little bit different than what you would typically see in this like, mental toughness, mental performance space. And one of the ways that it is different is that we include the parent and because what you say and your body language and really like your support for your athlete impacts your confidence. And so I love that you started with yourself and you know, just even those tweaks make a big difference For sure. Cool. All right, Carlos, if you wanna, drop in, like how many kiddos do you have? What sports do they play? I love that we have a dad on as well, because that's one of the top questions that we get is like, how do I get my husband on board? Or like, I am totally in, but like, I'm trying to kind of show the value to my partner or my spouse. So, so happy that you're here, Carlos. But, yeah, we'll work with what we got. Cool. So Chris, you mentioned that, you kinda stumbled across it, your daughter was, you were honestly being a little bit proactive. Can you explain a little bit more about what you were noticing in her that made you think like, this might be a good, I know you shared a little bit already, but kind of paint us the picture, again, of like, where were you at? Yeah. So, my daughter is really independent and like self-driven, and her attitude is, I got this, I got this. Um, but we've noticed this in the past that she just takes a lot of the mental, the mental, um, um, well, one, one person had recognized she has like, grace for everybody else and zero for herself. Mm-hmm. And so in past seasons, we would see her like, take any mistake of the team, like it was all on her and all her fault. And then she would spiral. And then pretty much every tournament would, at some point she would be in tears. And, and she's just very competitive and stuff. So when we started looking at this program, I was like, I, she just really, she's really gonna be playing like high, higher level. Mm-hmm. And, I wanted her to be supported in a way that I just felt like it wasn't, it wasn't gonna come from me. Mm-hmm. She needed some skills that she wasn't gonna hear from me. And so, when she started listening to a little bit and she was hesitant. She was resistant. We'll probably get into it later, like just how I approached it with her. Yeah, that's my next question. But I noticed, yeah. So I noticed with her that, she just seemed lighter and she seemed more confident. She's not a real, you know, she doesn't communicate, she doesn't share and gush and all these, like, I feel like this. And I feel like that you just have to really like, watch her body language and she will share. But it will come at her own, you know, at her own pace I guess. But, uh, she would just, she would share things about how she was applying the different things that she was learning on her own. And I had peace'cause I felt like I didn't have to force it. Like I would take the things that you would talk about or in the Facebook, the group. Or the text. I love the text. So text support that comes out with just little nuggets. And it was just little things that I would, um, use and I would apply. Mm-hmm. And I would notice her almost like, she would relax, like, oh, good mom's not gonna gimme a lecture, or everything's not a lesson, or everything is just be positive. Or you, you know, like all the things that I was saying you would say, like in your stop saying, just shake it off. I was like, oh my gosh. I say that all the time. Which is not necessarily bad, but it's just not really like, super helpful. Yeah. And that's exactly what I saw. I was like off, you know, like, why does she not seem to be receiving my encouragement? Well, and um, and then I stopped doing it. It was like she just, she applied the tools you were giving her like the Snapback routine. And I would hear her say these things to her coach, like. One of my goals is, you know, for this tournament is to, really apply my snapback routine. And like, I would just overhear like her thoughts and her comments mm-hmm. And we would see it. We're almost at the end of club season. She hasn't had one meltdown. She's, and she's had some really tough situations. And she just, it's like, it just rolls. Like she's shaking it off. Without me harping on her about it. Like, but she's using the tools. She's referenced the breathing technique. She's, mentioned the visualization. Like I see her doing the things on the way to tournaments. I give her space afterwards because I'm like, I don't need to fill all the space with all the questions afterwards. Like, she needs to just be able to process how much she wants to talk. So, I mean, I could probably go on for hours. I love this program so much. Like, I feel like this has probably been her toughest season of volleyball. And she's had, you know, like I said, she's had some tough stuff in the past, but this has been definitely a tough season in different areas. But I feel like in a lot of ways this has been our most peaceful season. Because she has some tools. I have some tools going into it, so, yeah. Oh my gosh. And that's the ultimate thing. Like just that feeling of peace, that no, you can't control the challenges, you know, the coaches, the teammates, the situation she's going to be in, but to be able to be at peace knowing like she's got the tools to handle it. Like that's where it's at. Okay, let's see. We've got a couple of things, but to ask you. But first, Carlos, any, any luck? I mean, can, can you hear me now? Oh my gosh, yes. Sorry about this. I'm not an IT expert, so sorry about this. It's okay. You don't need to be. Well, I'm so happy that we can hear your voice. So yeah, Carlos, will you please introduce yourself? How many kiddos you have, what sports they play. Yes. So thank you. Thank you for being patient with me. Yeah. So, uh, my name is Carlos. I'm originally from Mexico. I have three kids, three daughters. Two of them are gymnast. The other one is practicing volleyball. The reason that I learn and try to join this program is try to be some kind of support to my oldest daughter. She's a gymnast level nine mm. And she was struggling with confidence. Yeah. So that's the main reason, trying to help a little bit with something to improve her confidence. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's a perfect representation of where most parents are right now. And it's interesting because your athlete themselves probably wouldn't articulate it that way. Who would be like, I'm struggling with confidence, but like, as a parent, you're like, yeah, that's what it's, yes. We, we were noticing something, something was not okay. One of the puzzle was not matching. Mm-hmm. She went from being an amazing level three, level seven, level eight. Suddenly when she, jumped to level nine. Gymnastics, something happened. Mm-hmm. And she was disconnected. She was a totally different athlete. So we try, I tried to give her some advice, trying to work with some, uh, quotes, some uh phrases, some breath talk. Nothing works, nothing. Mm-hmm. The reason to start digging about, different programs, about this program was when she asked me, to stop doing whatever was I was doing, that I'm not sure whatever you are doing is not working, please stop, don't do it anymore. Mm-hmm. So it was like a big red flag for me. Yeah. I said, okay, what whatever I'm doing is not working is actually worsening everything. So I need to try a different story. Yeah. Okay. That's great. I mean, I'm glad she felt comfortable articulating and telling you that. And I'm excited to get into your story because we've gotten some awesome texts from your daughter, as she's going through the program. So, yeah. But I do wanna ask both of you, so you're both like in the spot where you're recognizing we need to do something different. She needs tools, you know, whether it's confidence, getting over a mental block, like what we're doing is not actually helping. So you're there, but now you're kind of faced with this, how do I present it to her? And I know a lot of parents are in this situation too. They're like, I know that this is the missing piece, but you know, I've got a teen or I've got a tween. And while I'll say most athletes like take well to the program and do awesome, you know, we also are like, how do I present it to her in a way that makes it not seem like something's wrong with her? So, Chris, I'll start with you. I just wanna ask like, how did you present the program? Did you just have her jump in? Did you talk to her about it before? And then Carlos, I'll hear from you. So I actually wrestled with that too because, so much of what Carlos said really resonated with me too about seeing the differences. And I didn't want it to present it to her, like, just like you said about like, some, I think something's wrong with you, this is gonna fix you or something. And I was really, concerned about that. So the way I approached it with her is, so we actually homeschool. Mm-hmm. And so I presented it to her as just something I wanted to explore and add into our curriculum for the year, regarding mental health. Mm-hmm. That I felt like, like it may have some mental health tools and for the sports season. And so I presented it to her that we were gonna both explore this for like two weeks, check it out, see if we felt like it had value and then go from there. So I gave her an out, I was like, yeah, if we don't really feel like it's working, and I was already like, I'm doing it like for me. Even if you were like, I don't want it. Yeah. She did. So at first she was kind of hesitant. She did a couple of the lessons that were in there. She kind of did it. And then next thing I know, we were like in, we were driving and she had brought her laptop with us and I could hear one of your, it was a podcast or something, but she jumped on and she was just doing it herself. And then I think I have never actually had to say, Hey, are you doing that? I will see her or see her, the zooms on Sundays, like she just jumped in and, but that, I just presented it like a two weeks. Let's give this a two week run. Mm-hmm. Explore it, see if you get some value out of it. If not, we won't continue. Yeah. And. And she, like I said, she was hesitant at first, but then she has been running with it. Mm-hmm. Okay. That's great. I love that, that how, how you presented it. And, we do have a 14 day money back guarantee on the program, so it's probably you're like, Hey, we've got this window of time that we can try it out. And then Chris, you also mentioned the, the live calls. So included in the program, your first three months of live support are free, so that includes coach on-call texting, which I know you're, you're gonna talk about in a little bit too. Mm-hmm. And then access to the two times a month live calls, so, which are great. So it sounds like she's taking advantage of those and it's just a good way, like they're totally optional, like athletes don't have to go to them, but they're a good way just for some accountability. Kinda see other athletes who are also doing it. They get to interact with me and the other coaches and our guest speakers. So they're a fun way to be able to like, have a live component to the program too. So I think that that, was actually something, the first one I actually made her, I was like, Nope, you need to get on this. This is a live, you know, part of it. I want you to check it out. And ever since then, the same thing. Like she, she actually was gone and she was like, I'm gonna be home by whatever the time it was. I can't remember what time it was starting. I was like, what's the, what the heck? And she goes, I, I got the live Zoom. I wanna be on live. I think it's better live. And I think the biggest thing that I have that I like about it, because I'll listen in while she's on it and that she has mentioned that she likes, is the questions that others asked. Mm-hmm. Or asked, can't speak. But it, it helped to see like, Hey, I'm not the only one going through these struggles. There's not something like wrong with me. This is like a common thing. Mm-hmm. And then the, the tools that are given. Even in that, those conversations, I've noticed a big difference with her when she gets on, she comes off like pumped up. She's excited. Like, she's like, I don't know. I noticed a difference in that little 45 minute from when she jumps off to when she jumps off. She's like. Yeah. So that's so great. Awesome. Okay. Well, Carlos, tell us about how you introduced it. Were you like, you're doing this, or was it more of an open situation? No, so after, after she told me, okay, that whatever you're doing is not working mm-hmm. I asked her, okay, just get with me this date. We want to watch a presentation. Mm-hmm. This, uh, coach, coach Bri, offering a free presentation. Just, just watch it, watch it with me. Give your thoughts, gimme your opinions. Let's give it a try. Mm-hmm. If whatever I'm doing is not working, let's try a different method. Give it a time for two weeks. If it is not working, you can stop. If you think that you can get something, at least something, some benefits. Let's keep digging, let's keep working and we'll see. Mm-hmm. So after watching that, free presentation, she thought, okay, that, you know what, yes, let's give it a try. I think that this, this is a different strategy, different method, different technique, some tools, for the parents and also for the athletes. Let's try it so you can work on your own stuff and I can work with on my own. Let's give it a try. Mm-hmm. So, yes, after watching this, presentation, with decided to, let's go, go for it. Mm-hmm. We bought the program and, after three, four days, after watching and seeing her doing her, her homework, her her stuff, we noticed that we, uh, mm-hmm. We have a different daughter, believe it or not, a different daughter. Yeah. At sports. At school. Aw. Yeah. Within home. She seemed happier, a little bit happier. Mm-hmm. She started talking about the lessons. She started talking about some tools, the thing that she has been learning. So she was kind of different. Yeah. So I think, giving her the opportunity to watch this presentation with you, coach Bri, it was a big, big deal. Yeah. Oh my gosh, Carlos. That makes me really happy that you mentioned that. Yeah. And. The presentation you're probably talking about is the one that many were on this week. It was probably the live presentation mostly for sport Yes. Is geared towards sports parents. So we don't always recommend that, that the athletes watch that because we talk a lot about confidence and stuff. But yes, it's a, it's an option. The other options that we have, are the, what's your competitor style quiz? Christina, maybe you can drop that in the chat. We have a little conversation guide with some podcast episodes that athletes can listen to. We also take care of a lot of, a lot of the buy-in once athletes are in the program. So once they get going with the warmup, like both Chris and Carlos said, like they see like, oh, okay, this is cool. Like top athletes are doing this. This isn't like something's wrong with me. They get to hear from alumni from the program. Like I said, they get to take that little quiz that's like the first thing that they do. So they learn about themselves, like what competitor style they have. They learn about mental training. So we take care of a lot of the buy-in. If athletes are super hesitant. We also offer for them to jump on a call with Coach Saylor, who is um, one of our awesome athlete coaches that texts with them and she's on the live calls. And even just connecting with Saylor for like five minutes is a great way too, to get them like, okay, this is not just like, my parents think something's wrong with me, so. Okay. If I add, can I add something? Oh yeah. Even though it's not recommended that the athletes, uh, watch and, and, and see the presentation or the live calls mm-hmm. I decided to do it because she was so persistent, hesitant Yeah. About trying something. Yeah. So I saw some testimonials mm-hmm. From parents, from athletes. So that's why I decided, okay, just, just watch it. Yeah. It's not, because that is saying it, just, just watch and gimme your, your opinion. Mm-hmm. It helped a lot, even though, like you said, it's not recommended. Mm-hmm. It helped a lot. Yeah. So, yes, that's great. And honestly, you know, your kid the best, so you're like, this is what she needs to hear, so, and you, you nailed it. So, the other thing that I think it was. Chris, well actually both of you. Like, I love that you're also leading with, this isn't just for you, it's for me. Like clearly what I'm doing is not really helping. And so this is also for me to be a better sports parent for you and a really a better parent for you. And, I think when athletes see that, but it's not like all on them. You're like, you, I'm in it with you. Like I'm learning. I have not, I love the, I mean, Chris, you have six kids. Carlos, you have three. You, you're very, you're very seasoned parents. But, I always say like, this is the first time I have been a parent of a 15-year-old or a 16-year-old, you know, and so I'm, I'm learning too, and this is a resource for me to be better for you. So that sometimes is also a good approach. Okay. I wanna get into the juicy parts. Like what did you start to notice? So we kind of have led up to what the situation was, how it was presented. I also see a question in the chat from Ashley that I'm gonna get into in a second around like, time commitment, like kinda the logistics of like how it works for your schedules. So I will, Ashley, I'll answer that as well and kind of hear from both of, the parents here. But, Chris, what did you start to notice in your daughter when she started doing the training? She started to kind of like sink her teeth in. What were the changes that you started to notice? I noticed definitely confidence because, one of the things Carlos had said had resonated with me too. Like, there was a shift at her, in her at one point where she just seemed different. Like she was a different kid. Mm-hmm. Like she was shutting down. She was withdrawing, she was and I knew it was this, the pressure she was, you know, struggling with this pressure. So that was the first thing, that I noticed. With her and how she responded to some tough situations. I tried to craft my words, well, yeah, you're good. She didn't take it on like, I'm a complete failure. I, I, I'm terrible, you know, whatever, all the things. She just, she didn't sit there and just beat herself up. She took the correction, like she took out of the correction, what she needed to take, and she took and she let go of how it was delivered. Mm. Mm-hmm. Which was something that she had struggled with in the past of like separating the two Yes. From saying that. Yeah. But and so she, she didn't let it just completely derail her. Mm-hmm. That was one, a big win for her. I felt like, I saw with her and then, when she would make an error, that was one of the things that she would mess up. It was like. It was almost like, okay, everything I've done has been a mess up. And she didn't, she would just shake it off and she would go right onto the next one and, and she would succeed. She was able to mentally, like, throw away that error and nail it the next time. That was something we saw in her a big shift instead of spiraling downward. But she also, shared, you know, she was using the tools in different things. She would have a debate competition, and we never even talked about it, like, we never discussed using your tools or are you gonna use your tools? Like, it was never a conversation. It wasn't even on my radar. But later afterwards, she said, man, I was so nervous for that, you know, for that, for the debate. And she goes, but then I started using the breathing techniques that I learned, and she goes, I used it the whole, all the way through. And I was like, oh, wow. What? Yeah. It just never crossed my mind, but thankfully she knew that was a tool she could use in another situation. Yeah. And she nailed it. She handled it, you know, you could never tell that she was nervous at all through the whole thing. Wow. So those, I guess are a couple things. I think I mentioned earlier, you know, last season she just would put so much pressure on herself that it was like by the end of every tournament, she was, she was crying. Mm-hmm. She was trying, struggling to keep herself composed. And Jake, you know, doesn't ever wanna see anybody, anybody to see her meltdown. Yeah. As you can see, by the end of it, she was just, she was spent, like, she was just, couldn't hand, you know, couldn't keep up anymore. Mm-hmm. And that has not happened. Not once this season at all. She hasn't even. Like she, it just hasn't even happened. Wow. Wow. She's just, and she's been playing at a level, so yeah, I guess those are a couple things, I guess. Mm-hmm. Yeah, those are, those are awesome. And I wanna hear, like, as much as you wanna share a, after I hear from Carlos, if you can,'cause you said like, it's been a tough season, the competition's been tough, maybe there's some tough challenges, obviously, whatever you feel comfortable sharing. But I would love to hear like, what have the challenges, what have some of the challenges been that like, normally this would've gone kind of sideways, but now she's overcoming it. So I'll give you a second to think about those. So, Carlos, how about you? What did you start to see? What changes did you start to notice? So, yes, it started, like I said, with, um, her attitude towards life. More the competition or the need. Yeah. And, and we can see her body language more relaxed, more confident, having a smile, simple as having a smile on her face, that's, that's, that was the world for us. Having, having, again, that smile on her face. Mm-hmm. So from body language to the words that she's using, from about to quit the sport. Mm-hmm. She said, okay, do you know that I love my sport? I love my sport again. So those, those kind of, changes we, we were able to see. Mm-hmm. Um, she started saying that she loves gymnastics, that she loves being there. Practicing. Mm-hmm. Having fun with the coach, with the teammates. and not thinking about quitting. So yeah, it was 180, 180 degrees, uh, difference. Wow. Yeah. That's awesome. And I just pulled up a text that we got from her, like kind of little bit into the program, and she said she overcame a mental block too, so Yes, yes. That's huge. I, I, I didn't know how to help her about dealing with the mental blocks. Mm-hmm. I made a mistake of telling her, oh, you know what? Confidence is just like a superpower that you press one button and boom, it's there. Right. I know. It's, it's not, it's not that. Yeah. Where's my button? I don't know. She's like, I don't have the button. Just, just be confident. But that how, I dunno how. Mm-hmm. This be confident. So she learned that and she told me, you know, that I'm not confident, but I. Trust, uh, trusting me. I, I'm trusting myself. Mm-hmm. I trust in my progress, um, on the way I, I believe in myself, I love myself. Mm-hmm. It's not about being confident, but trusting in yourself. Yeah. I was like a big mm-hmm. Big, big, big, big situation for me. Yeah. So noticing this kind of growth in a short period of time. It, it's, it's amazing. Yeah. It's amazing. Yeah. And normally I'm learning on my own, but I'm learning from my athlete. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So that, that's another thing I would think. I'm learning what she's learning. She's teaching me some stuff. She's practicing some tools every day. I can resonate with the snapback routine at first. Mm-hmm. I didn't know what was it, what she was talking about but now that I am learning and doing the program and watching her, now I can relate and resonate. What is the famous, not like a routine mm-hmm. Visualization. She's using the visualization in the past she didn't, she didn't know how to do it, what to do, and she's doing the visualizations every day. Wow. Uh, yes. Yes. It's, it's, it's amazing all the progress in, in the short, short time. Yeah. Oh, that's so awesome to hear. Okay, Chris, I'll circle back to you. Anything come to mind on like, just what you noticed this season that you're like, wow, typically that would've gone different? Yeah. It's something Carlos said. I just have to say same thing with my daughter, with the confidence, you know, some of the tough situations is the same thing. Being told to just choose confidence. And it's the same thing. Like, okay, well I'm trying, you know, like I'm trying to choose confidence and, but once you realize, you know, I have the tools and I can rely on the tools and the training that I, you know, I've gotten here that, that was the magic button Yeah. That she needed. Not just being told, just be confident. Coming from the co you know, the coaching. Communication was, that was what was being told. Just be confident. Yeah. And you could see that She was like, I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be confident. Mm-hmm. And I thought I was confident. Right. But, so being able to go back to, and that's what I'll remind her. Mm-hmm. You've got the tools. Just go play, go do what you know, go do what you know, you know how to do. Mm-hmm. And then that's, and that's what she focuses on. I'm like, okay, I'm trying to muster up this confidence. I'm gonna use my tools and just go do what I know how to do, what I've been trained to do. Yeah. And that's, that was a big, shift for her. Some of the challenges for her this year or what, why we knew it was just mainly because she was going into a, a higher division. That we had some, you know, concern that wasn't like allowing for the time for natural progression to work up to that. But then also it was a very young team, just in general, a very young and inexperienced team. Mm-hmm. That was all going up into this division that. You know, we were just concerned. They weren't really equipped for. And then, um, also very new coaching. It was coaches that hadn't had the experience in the levels as well. So we were just like, this could be a really rough season mm-hmm. As everybody tries to figure this out. Um, and so that, that was, you know, without digging in deeper, I guess. Yeah. But that's some of our concerns. We were like, it's gonna be a tough season just for a lot of reasons. Mm-hmm. And. She just needs some different equipping. Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. I don't know if that actually, if that answered it or, oh, don't totally. Like, I think that's a concern for, I mean, all parents honestly, sh I hate to say should, but should be concerned about that. Like you're, you're kind of seeing it play. You're like, she's, I shared on the webinar this week too, like I played at a high level in college and like every single season got harder and harder and harder. Like the coaching got harder, the expectations got more, the pressure got more intense. And then especially as the parent, you're kind of seeing like, well, if it's young and inexperienced coaching and she's playing in a level that's higher, like you're just connecting the dots that like, okay, this is gonna be much more than physical that she's gonna be challenged with. So yeah. That makes a lot of sense. Okay, let's talk logistics. I, the question I get a lot is like, how do you fit this in? Like, my athlete's training a lot, she's going to school. I know Chris for you, like the homeschool situation maybe lends itself a little bit easier to just like pocketing in. But I'm curious like how. How did your athletes do it? We have a 30 minute a week training plan that we recommend they go through. It's also self-paced. They can go faster, they can go slower. They can do it on the way to the, their tournament or whatever. Like even just a little bit goes a long way. But I'm curious like how it actually looked in your athletes' actual schedule. So, Carlos, I'll start with you. How did that all look for you guys? Yes. Um, well, school and then after school she goes directly to practice mm-hmm. From three to eight every day. So she has just a few minutes, uh, every day to do, something. So she, uses the method and, and the tools and the, lessons from 15 to 30 minutes a day. Mm-hmm. As a slow progress. But, uh, huge improvements. So she's, all in, every day. She has been practicing. She has been learning, reading. Mm-hmm. Uh, discussing what she's learning with, her sisters and mom and dad. Uh, but just, just a little steps, like 15 days, minutes a day for her has been enough. Mm-hmm. Sometimes when she has, more availability. She do around 30, 35, 40 minutes a day or does as little as 15 minutes a day. It's a lot for my athlete. Yeah. Um, yes. That's actually more than we recommend. So she's doing, she's doing a lot. So good on her. But yeah, like I said, she's, she's, mm-hmm. Um, she's totally hands on, uh, all in, committed Uh, since probably day two, first, the first day wasn't kind of easy for her. Mm-hmm. But after day two, day three, she was only, yeah. Okay. That's great. Okay. Chris, how does it look for you all? Yeah, for us. So my daughter, typically, she likes to organize her time on her own. She's like, yeah. So she usually, when I hear her doing it the most is when we're in the car going to, she has a pretty heavy schedule, with different classes mm-hmm. And training and things, and she'll do it. Like I said earlier, I think the she'll have her laptop on and she'll connect to the hotspot and I'll hear her going through it in the car, usually when we're going. And I would say she probably does in total, maybe an hour a week. Mm-hmm. You know, altogether. But I also had printed out, there's, I dunno if it's would be called the workbook, but all the. Okay. So I printed that for her and put it in a binder for her. Mm-hmm. And, she'll have that out, you know, throughout the week and making notes in there or working on the different, um mm-hmm. The modules, whatever. And then she'll do go through it there. She just works it in. I feel like as, like if she knows she's coming into something or go going into a tournament or something, she'll dig it out and do a little extra time. Mm-hmm. But in general, she probably, maybe an hour a week, the week that she does the live Zoom, you know, that's another 45 minutes or so. But, she tries to catch those live. She isn't always able to, so she'll do the replay on her own. She really likes that live Zoom. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I wanna talk about that in a second. Yeah, that's great. I mean, you guys, you both have kiddos that are pretty responsible with their time management. Sounds like that's great for those that aren't, you know, for probably the 75% that aren't, we actually just recommend that they print out the 30 minute a week training plan. So, that helps them stay on track. They can just like check off the lessons as they go. Yeah, there is a workbook like Chris said, so some parents choose to print that off. They can also, it's all, it's fillable PDFs, so if they wanna do it electronically, they can totally do that too. But for a lot of people, they like the pen and paper. And so at 30 minutes a week that gets athletes through the program in about three months or so. That gets them through like the core content. But it is designed for them to come back to, it's designed for them to continue to utilize the skills. Maybe there's not something that applies to them right now, like. I'm not really dealing with comparison right now, but next season, all of a sudden I've got this girl on my team and I'm constantly like measuring myself against her. And that section is now applicable. So, we also recommend the athletes go back through phase two at the start of every new season. So club season sport to, to high school season or switching sports or when they level up because that is going to help reset their goals. That's where they set their daily mindset routine, their 3, 2, 1 brave. So yeah, I love that you're, your athletes seem very responsible. Um, but if you're a mom that's like, well, I don't know if she's gonna fit this in, use the 30 minute a week training plan, for our younger athletes, one thing that has been working well. From some parents is they like actually just carve out a day of the week that they go to Starbucks and mom or dad works on their side and then athlete works on their side. So they're like, this is when we do it. And then they do their 3, 2, 1 brave, which is the daily mindset routine. It takes five, like five minutes. They're like, well, I'll just do that before practice. And it's a good way to keep it stop top of mind. But yeah. Let's talk about the live aspect, Kim. Good question. How many girls are on a live call? We split the first call of the month by age. So the middle school and younger are together. They're typically like between 20 and 30 girls. There's been a little bit more recently, but we also have, two to three coaches on the call. So we go into breakout rooms and depending on how many girls are on the call and then we an answer their questions there. And then the high school and college calls, there's been about 15 to 20 on there. So. The coaches, there's three of us. So there's me, there's Coach Sailor, and then there's Coach Rachel. Rachel is also a parent coach. So her daughter, she has two kiddos that are playing division one sports right now. Her daughter was like McDonald's all American. She's played, she's a freshman at Michigan Freshman of the year. Yeah, she, basketball player. Amazing. So anyways, she has just such good, like perspective as a sports mom, but then also she's a certified mental performance coach for us. So she does both athlete and parent. And then Sailor is, like I think I mentioned already, but she's a former dual sport college athlete. She's in her twenties, so she connects really well with the girls. She is on the other end of most of the coach on call texting aspects. So she's coaching the girls via text. So yeah. And then. How long do we have access to the program once we sign up? Yeah, you have lifetime access to all the content, so that never goes away. And any updates we make to the program as well. The only thing that's like time, you know, bound is the live support, which I'm gonna talk about in a second. So the first three months are free for live support. So you get the texting, you get the live calls. If you wanna continue after those three months, then we do offer that at$79 a month, but you don't have to. So that's the only thing that's there. And then one-on-ones, yes, we do. Sailor is doing, sailor has one-on-ones. We sell one-on-one packages in packages of three. So you can always add that on. But it's not, in the program, the coach on call texting is their individual access to coaches. Okay. Sorry, that was a lot. Um, Chris, can you talk about the, you talked about the live calls, things like that, but does your daughter use the coach on call texting? Can you talk about that aspect to it? So, no, she has actually used it as far as responding. Mm-hmm. I know she likes the encouragement and the tips that come out regularly.'cause she'll mention those. Yeah. Or how, oh, you know this was talking about this and I was just thinking about this. You know, she'll connect those dots on her own. Mm-hmm. Um, I have used the texting. Yes. I, we had a really, rough situation that I was like, oh, I really don't know what to do with this. But I was a little fired up about it. Yeah. It's like, I'm not sure, I'm not usually one that makes a big deal outta stuff, but it was one of those things I was like, I don't know. And I texted back, or I texted in the text chat and I asked, I was like, Hey, this is a situation. Like, do you have some feedback or do you have some insight on this? And I did. I got a really great perspective mm-hmm. Shift back from it, but just really helped me kind of process through and how to, how to manage it differently. So, I was super grateful for having that piece of it. So yeah. I'm glad you mentioned that because yes, parents have access to coach on-call texting too. So you text in and coach Rachel is on the other end of that. I am too, but I mean, she's honestly like, has the most parent experience out of all of us. Like, so she's like, we call her the goat of sports moms. So, just to get her perspective on all the things that you face as a sports mom, like is, is great. So, Carlos, how about with Natalia? I know that she has been texting us and does she come to the live calls? Yes. She's so diligent with this, she's been, using this live text and calls. Mm-hmm. I haven't done it like, like her, but, uh, she is kind of, uh. Consistent with this. Mm-hmm. She got a lot of good, advice, guidance when, when she's, uh, texting back and forth mm-hmm. Every time that she has a doubt or when she's learning something and she's not quite sure about how to use it, how, what to do, she immediately do the texting. Mm-hmm. She got some good responses and, um, she's been using it a lot. Mm-hmm. A lot. Especially, uh, uh, when she's trying to do something different, uh, practice. Mm-hmm. Based on what she's learning, uh, using some tools. Okay. Let me go back with when, when my coach, let me ask her something. She got the response and she started using it, uh, right away. Mm-hmm. She is using a calendar, she's using the cell phone to join the live calls. Mm-hmm. And she, she's sharing with me and her sisters all the experiences that she's, uh, feeling all the knowledge that she's getting with the live calls. But yes. Yes. It's impressive how diligent and, and, uh, persistent she is. She's, uh, well, she's a different, different, different girl. Yeah. Oh, that's so great to hear. Um, and we love having your kids on the calls too. It's so fun to just also hear their questions. And Chris, I think you said too, like even having athletes on the calls, just listening to the questions that other people are asking is really useful because they're like, oh, I never thought to ask that. Or like, I actually have that thought in the back of my head, but I'm glad somebody else asked it. Um, and if they miss a live call, it's totally fine. We actually have a private athlete podcast, that we pop those replays on. We also give extra tips on those private podcast episodes, so they can always catch that there. If your daughter doesn't have a phone, we also, like you heard, we text you the parent, and so you, your daughter can also always access us via your parent yourself. So. Okay. Let's see. Question in the q and a. Thanks for popping these in here.'cause I can't see the q and a right now with this like, double screen situation I've got going on. Okay. I know this is centered around athletes. How do you, how do the one-on-one go towards other subjects? Okay. Wait, my daughter is in very competitive seeing. Oh yeah, yeah. Competitive singing. I don't want her to get discouraged. We can't apply to her, our area, I mean it very much applies to performance based activities. So singing would be one of those. We've had kiddos join that are like, not athletes, but they're in mock trial or they do theater arts. You know, so that would apply to there. We do mostly give metaphors and examples related to sports. So she just have to kind of be able to recognize like, okay, if they're talking about like sports performance, I am translating this to stinging performance. But all of the strategies would apply as well. Okay. And then I see some great questions. Jessica, do the tools help with jealousy in dealing with difficult teammates or peers? Yeah, like in the program itself, we find that like once a athletes start to like, look inside themselves and realize like what they want, what their goals are, like, once their confidence gets strengthened, they're less likely to look around and like be jealous of other people. Like they're just more focused on like what they want. But we do have some specific, modules in the training material around comparison and jealousy. We have that bonus ditch, the drama training bundle that everyone gets when you join as a part of this enrollment special. So that's specifically like how do you deal with, with challenging teammates. That's also a thing that we coach athletes on. That's probably the number one thing that we coach athletes on via coach on call texting. They ask the common questions are like, I'm nervous. I got a mental block, what do I do? And also I have this teammate that is like super whatever, like rude or challenging, like how do I navigate this? So also your daughter can get some like personalized support around that too. Okay. All right. Keep those questions coming. Moms, I have just a couple more questions for Carlos, for Chris. Um, Chris, what would you say is your, like, favorite tool in the program? So aspect of the program tool, you've mentioned a lot, but like if you were to narrow it down, what would you say that it is? I think, one on her side and one on my side that has been. A really helpful tool or just awareness actually maybe is so in the Facebook chat or the Facebook group where parents can ask questions and the coaches respond and things. That has been really helpful for me. Yeah. And like I said, we have six kids and most of them did some pretty competitive sports. But you, every kid is different. Yeah. And every situation is new. And in this particular, for my daughter, I was really feeling like, man, I am really failing as a mom. Like I can't figure this out. And especially after having multiple kids in sports and different things, like why can't I figure this out? Like, why am I not able to help her and it must just be me. So kind of like how, you know, I feel like that they sometimes think that like. There's something wrong with me. I need to fix this, or whatever. I was struggling with some of that too. And so hearing the parents' questions and their scenarios, and even though they weren't exactly the same as my situation or the things that we were dealing with it, I could make that connection like, oh, this is similar to what I'm going and the feedback was so helpful. Mm-hmm. Hearing their questions and those conversations and how that was worked through. So I'd say that is probably one for me that I have, I have really appreciated. And the regular tips and things that you drop in there about, you know, um, or today I think it was about the labels. Mm-hmm. Like that was just a really good, like self-reflection, um, thing. So that's from on my side I think I like, and for my daughter, um, I think the live calls actually and the questions, and from the same thing. But on her side, the athlete side is hearing the other athletes are the other people that are on there asking their questions and her realizing like, man. All these people have these same questions and these same challenges and these same struggles, and to be able to work through them together. Mm-hmm. Uh,'cause she's not one who is, like I said, she won't just like talk, talk, talk, talk, talk. Mm-hmm. But she really like, listens and absorbs and receives the information well, and then shifts and adjusts and applies. And so I, there's been so many tools, like there's so many things I love about the program, but I think those two are just really standout aspects. She has done performance coaching programs in the past and they've been good and they were helpful. They're, they're just aspects of this that are. Just set it apart. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Okay. That's great. And, yeah, on the, the Facebook thing you mentioned that made me think parents actually have lifetime access to that. It's not, that one isn't bound by any time or, you know,'cause we know there's things that are gonna happen as your daughter goes through her sport. And so we actually give you lifetime access to our Facebook community and our, private podcast. So yeah, that's, you're, you're with us for life. I do. Okay. I thought of another question, Chris, if you feel comfortable answering after I hear from Carlos, like, were you considering other things or like maybe you've done other programs or, because I know some parents are like, well, I'm considering maybe like a sports psychologist or something like that, which is, we're not saying that that's a bad thing at all, but, just curious, like what else were you maybe considering? So, Carlos from you, favorite tool in the program or aspect of the program? For me as a parent, same as Chris, the awareness. Mm-hmm. Knowing my, my role as a parent, I'm not the athlete. I'm not the coach. Yeah. I don't need to act like, like an athlete. Mm-hmm. So actually my daughter told me like, dad, I'm not you. Mm-hmm. So a awareness, awareness that verbal and not verbal communication about what to say, what not to say as a parent mm-hmm. Before or during the competition, but that, that awareness, of, as a parent, the role as a parent. Yeah. Um, you need to be just a support, help, a guidance in, in, in your journey. But that's it. You are not the athlete. Mm-hmm. In my case, I'm not the athlete. I'm not the coach. So learn about my boundaries. For her, like Chris, said, the life goals mm-hmm. She is amazed with, with the life goals, knowing that there are some other athletes struggling with the same situations, with the same mental blocks, with the same lack of confidence and lack of something. Mm-hmm. Uh, learning that there are some athletes that they, they were able to overcome all the negative stuff and being a different athlete, that it is possible that it is doable. Somebody has done it before I can do it too. So that's the, probably the best tool that she's, using right now. Yeah. Okay. That's, that's amazing. Okay. Chris, any other things that you were considering you can touch on that? Yeah. I actually was, my daughter had done some mental performance programs in the past. Two different seasons, but they were very short and they were probably the right thing at the right time mm-hmm. For what she needed in that moment. And I was, when I was looking for a different one this time and I, I guess I didn't really know exactly what I was looking for, but I was looking for something different. Yeah. And, when I stumbled on this one, the parent piece of it is really what drove it home for me. And then the live, all the, there's just a lot of extra pieces that came with this program that, we didn't have with the other one, the lifetime access, that was a big one for me. I was like, oh, wow.'cause we had spent a considerable amount of money on the previous, uh, coaching programs, but they were like, one was like an eight week and one was like a 12 week and it was a set content once you went through it like that was it. Mm-hmm. And again, there was value, like it helped her in the time. But that the lifetime access, the direct support, was huge. And the parent side of it, but there's just been so much value to the parent side of it. Yeah. That, that is one piece I haven't seen anywhere else. Yeah. Okay. Thanks for sharing that. Carlos. Were you, and I don't know if that applies to you, any other, you're like considering other things? Well before trying this, methodical coach mm-hmm. We tried with, uh, not the sports psychologist, but a therapist, psychologist. Mm-hmm. Uh, coach, uh, it didn't work. Uh, my, my athlete felt that she was in a police interrogation. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Doing this back and forth, answers and questions. She felt not okay with that, um, uh, sessions or those sessions, and we will stop doing it. Mm-hmm. We tried with a different, therapist. It was the same, the same result. We tried with, articles with some, watching some videos. Mm-hmm. And it, it didn't work. Uh, I tried, I'm not a psychologist, but I tried doing my own method again. It didn't work. Yeah. Uh, that's what I convinced my daughter, not convinced, but I, asked her to, to at least try this elite program. We're not, trying to do or try a different method right now. Mm-hmm. Like I said, we're probably, uh, hands on this one. Yeah. She's enjoying it. Um, yes. No, no, no. As of right now, we're not trying to do something different. Mm-hmm. Because this one is working. Yeah. Okay. Well that's great to hear. Yeah, and I think some, I'm glad you said that, Carlos, because a lot of times athletes are like, okay, when I'm sitting down with, and again, sports psychology, or sports psychologists, therapists, like there's definitely, a great place for that. And, but what we've heard from some athletes is like, this just seems really intense. You know, like, I've gotta sit down with somebody, like, and we've gotta talk about our feelings and all this. And like the program more gives like very tangible tools and, you know, presents it like, okay, here's a tool, use it right now, and here's a tool, use it. So yeah, we get that question a lot too, like, what about therapy? And sometimes this can, um, work concurrently with that because it's more sports performance based. Um, so yeah, just mentioning that, if that's helpful to anybody. Um, I think we've answered all the questions in the chat, or Christina has grabbed them, but, um, parents who are listening, if you have any other last minute questions, go ahead and pop those in. I'll wrap up now just with any last, any last things, any last things you wanna say, anything that we didn't cover, and then we'll wrap it up. So, Chris, I'll, I'll start with you. There we go. Um, I guess, uh, I just feel like there's really no risk. Mm-hmm. Because you do offer that 14 day, um, trial. It's not really a trial, but Yeah. Um, I feel like there's no risk. Like there's only the opportunity to benefit from it. Um, if anybody just even just jumps in there for two weeks and gives it a try, um, I would imagine you probably don't get too many, many people leaving that, right? Yeah. Because it's so good. It's just so, it's been such a rich program, but, um, there really is no risk. Um, there really is only the opportunity for reward from it. So that's what I would like leave people with. Like, you can't. Mm-hmm. There, it's, you offer no risk opportunity with just checking it out. Yeah. Oh, thanks for saying that. Yeah. That's awesome. Carlos, any last thing from you that you wanna mention? Yes. Same as Chris. The reason we decided to go for this method, this program is, the free risk. This, this, uh, two, two weeks of trial that you offer. Mm-hmm. And if you think that new is not getting any benefits, you can cancel it and you can get your re refund. Mm-hmm. That's a huge, deal for us or for, also as a family. Yeah. Uh, and that's the reason why my athlete, actually decided to join. To join. Mm-hmm. Okay. Let's give it a try, after trying it and after these two weeks that, you know what, this is the best gift that I, I can never get. So thank you for that. Thank you for encouraging me to do the trial. Two weeks trial, and thank you for that. So no, no risks, no nothing. Yeah. Um, my last comment, uh, my, my athlete has learned that it's, it's all about trusting in yourself, enjoying the right and just have fun. She, she, she learned this, she's using it, she's practicing. Mm-hmm. And you got stick on her mind. And she's using it every day, trusting, having fun, and just enjoying the progress, enjoying the right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. That's great. And can I answer really quick? You put a, there, I just saw, there was a question in the chat about how they get started. That was another thing that I was so impressed with the modules and how simple you had it laid out to go through everything. Like it made it so I just user friendly and, um, that was another, like the whole program I could literally talk about for so long, because it's just so many things they're okay. But yeah. Yeah. Thanks for mentioning that because we do put a lot of intentionality and thought behind it, you know, and like get a lot of feedback on like, okay, what's the simplest, you know, like low, low barrier to entry to just get going. So yeah. Ashley, what does day one look like? Yeah, she, when you enroll her, she gets a login. So she logs into her training portal and then literally just starts with the warmup, and the warmup takes it from there. She does her quiz first. She learns about herself if she hasn't already done that. And then she just goes through. So yeah, it's pretty, pretty simple. You get a slick like onboarding as well, and we break it up into, you know, manageable, bite-sized pieces so that you kind of know what's going on, what's included in the program, and how to go about it. So yeah, Ashley, if you can literally sign up today and get her started today. So, and then I have one last question on here. Can you speak to how this works with college athletes? I've heard a lot about high school and, and middle school and college and then, well, one thing that both of you, I mean, you both have multiple athletes and so although we've talked specifically about like one of your kiddos, I mean, you could, every athlete in your household gets their own login if you want, want them to, so. There's that, but yeah. College, these skills apply to college athletes as well. We've had, I would say about like 10 to 15% of our, athletes in the program are college aged. And so they go through it like any other athlete. And that's the beauty of like the content itself is that they're going through kind of at their own pace, applying the skills, learning them. And then as a parent of a college athlete, like, yeah, you've been through a lot already, but there probably are some things on the parent side that you could benefit from as well. So you go through your side, and learn those things as well. On the calls, the college athletes are grouped with the high school. It's like high school and college, are together. So, yeah, they're different, right? Like what a middle school athlete is going through and what if like a high school and a college athlete, like the questions are very different. So, um, we wanna make sure that they feel comfortable in their group as well. If you have, that, so yeah, the skills apply to those kiddos as well. In fact, we had. A runner from Clemson, who was going through the program recently, and we don't condone this, but she actually got her reset word tattooed on her body. She sent me a text and was like, look at the tattoo I got. And I was like, oh my gosh. And it was her,'cause in the program they learned like a reset word and she had, she had it on there and it was like unstoppable, I think is what it was. And I'm like, oh, well, okay. That's great. I mean, she is, she is in college, so, you know. Yeah. And then Catherine program recommended for a 9-year-old. That's on the young end. We've had as young as nine, but we recommend that you do the program more with her. So I would like kind of, you know, sit by her, do the athlete side, make sure she's tracking. I don't think you can teach these skills to kids, you know, young enough. Like she's gonna learn breath work, visualization, her thoughts about herself, like all of that is impressionable right now. Like I'm talking to my 7-year-old about all those things right now. So, but then you also having the parent side that young is great because now you're not going and waiting years and years and being like, oh shoot, I wish I wouldn't have like, said all of that. Like, I, I would've done it differently. So, yeah, lifetime access means that you can also just pop in when she's ready. So. Okay, I think we've got it all, but if you have any other questions, you can reach out to us at hello@elitecompetitor.com. Christina, will you pop the link for the discount in the chat as well one last time and yeah. Thank you Chris. Thank you Carlos for being here. I really appreciate you sharing your time so generously with us. Thank you for doing this program. Yeah. Like you don't charge enough. Oh God. Like it's worth so much more. It's worth so much more. Yeah. Oh, thank you. I've never heard that. Okay. I'm just gonna say actually I have, but, that's one of the first times I've heard that, which is amazing. All right. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you later. Thank you, coach.