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Raising Elite Competitors
Curious About Becoming a Mental Performance Coach? Here's How I Did It (And How You Can Start!) w/ Lindsey Wilson of Positive Performance
Ever wondered how to turn your passion for sports into a lucrative career? In this episode, I reveal how I went from a struggling volleyball coach to making $4,000 in one night as a mental performance coach. If you’ve ever dreamed of impacting athletes’ lives while creating the lifestyle you’ve always wanted, this is the episode you can’t afford to miss!
Join me and Lindsey Wilson, founder of the Mindset Coach Academy, as we explore:
- The critical element missing from my coaching toolkit
- Creative ways to fund your certification without breaking the bank
- Conquering fears and landing your first clients
- Evolving from local coach to online course creator
- Navigating the rollercoaster of entrepreneurship
- How this career shift reshaped my identity as a mom and woman
- The untapped potential in the mental performance coaching field
I’ll share the exact steps I took to kickstart my business, even with zero prior experience!
Curious if mental performance coaching could be your calling? This episode is your gateway to a potential new career. Listen now and discover the path to turning your passion into profit.
Join Lindsey and Coach Bre for: Launch Your Career as a Mental Performance Coach in 2025 March 12th, 12pm PST. Register for free here!
Episode Highlights:
[00:01:00] Lindsey Wilson’s Background
Lindsey Wilson, founder of Positive Performance and the Mindset Coach Academy, created the certification program I completed to become a mental performance coach.
[00:03:00] The Need for Mental Performance Coaching
A listener recently told me how much my work has impacted them, which just reinforces how important this field is. If you see a need for mental performance coaching in your community, this might be your calling.
[00:05:00] Lindsey’s Mission
Lindsey shares why she’s so passionate about mental performance coaching, tracing it back to her own experience as a professional athlete who benefited from mental training at a young age.
[00:09:00] Entrepreneurial Spark
At first, I was focused on helping my athletes, but the more I learned, the more I realized this could be a business. I wanted more flexibility and saw an opportunity to make a real impact.
[00:14:00] Choosing Certification Over a Degree
I share why I chose Lindsey’s certification program instead of going the sports psychology degree route. For me, it came down to practicality, affordability, and being able to start coaching right away.
[00:19:00] Finding the Money to Invest
I had to get creative when it came to paying for my certification. I used professional development funds, opened a credit card, and figured out a way to make it happen.
[00:25:00] Overcoming Imposter Syndrome
Like a lot of new coaches, I struggled with imposter syndrome at first. But over time, I built confidence in my ability to help athletes through mental performance coaching.
[00:30:00] Moving to Online Courses
I share how I transitioned from in-person coaching to launching an online course, which eventually became my Elite Mental Game program.
[00:34:00] Taking the First Step
If you’re thinking about becoming a mental performance coach, start exploring. Join the webinar, check out free resources, and take that first step.
Next Steps:
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Welcome back to the Raising Elite Competitors podcast. I'm Coach Brie, a mental performance coach for girl athletes, and I am so excited that you're here. This is a different episode. You are listening to this because you are maybe a little bit curious about becoming a mental performance coach yourself and if that is at all interesting to you and maybe you're wondering, like how did Brie do it, I like what she's doing. That sounds awesome. Or maybe you're wanting to add a little bit of mental training to your daughter's team. Maybe you're a coach that wants to add these skills to your coaching repertoire I mean, honestly, that's where I started. Or maybe you want to add this to an existing business or you want a little side income. There's a lot of reasons why you might be interested in becoming a mental performance coach. Or maybe you're not even that far down the path yet. You're just curious. So, wherever you are, this episode is for you.
Speaker 1:I had the pleasure of sitting down with Lindsay Wilson. She's the founder of Positive Performance and the creator of the Mindset Coach Academy. She is the owner of the certification program that I went through to become a mental performance coach about six years ago now a little over that so she actually took over the host of our podcast to interview me about all the things regarding the program where I was. I was a high school teacher and a coach at the time and I honestly wanted to just provide my team with these skills. So I talk all about that and how this evolved into a company now that I own and is amazing I love. What I do is so in alignment with the passion that I have of serving this community of athletes. So I mean, it's just everything and more than I could have hoped for, so I get to go into all of it. So if you're curious, like, how do you get started? What does it look like? What's the path? Lindsay lays it all out and she's also going to be opening up her certification soon. If you're listening to this at the time of recording, she'll be opening it in the spring, and so if you're just, you know, wondering like, could this be for me? This episode is a great start, but also on March 12, we are doing a webinar and Lindsay's hosting it. I'm just going to be coming along for the ride to say hi, but she is going to go even deeper into what it looks like to become certified as a mental performance coach, what her program looks like, how long it takes, the cost, all those things, and then I will be on there as well answering questions and sharing a little bit deeper around my story. But this episode is a great place to start, but if it does spark more in you, then definitely join us on March 12th for that webinar. I will leave the link in the show notes to register for that. It's totally free.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get into this episode, but before I do it I want to give a little shout out. This actually came into my DMs. I'm on Instagram at elite competitor coach and a volleyball mom. She actually checks all the boxes. She's a mom. She's a volleyball official, a former player and a coach. She's everything.
Speaker 1:And she said I recently found your account and I wish I had found you sooner. We need this messaging out there. You're doing great, important work. So thank you, and I share this because I know a lot of you are in the same boat and, honestly, that might be why you're listening to this episode, because you want to spread this work as well. You see the need in your community. Maybe you see the need in your own daughter and her team. Maybe you see the need in the players that you coach and you're like we need more confident, mentally strong athletes in their sport, because these skills maybe were not taught when you were an athlete and you're seeing the need as well. So I just share this as an affirmation that you are in the right place and if you're passionate about this work, then I would invite you to be curious about what it looks like to become a mental performance coach, or add these skills to your own coaching toolkit or your own momming toolkit, if that's a thing as well.
Speaker 1:All right, let's dive into this episode with Lindsay. I know you're going to enjoy it and if it sparks more in you, go ahead and join us on March 12th for that webinar. I'll see you in the next episode. Welcome, lindsay Wilson to the Raising Elite Competitors podcast. Hi, brian Nice to see you again.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's always a pleasure to have you on the podcast and I am excited about today's conversation because we're switching it up. Although it's the Raising Elite Competitors podcast, lindsay is going to be interviewing me, so we're going to do a little podcast host swap. But before we do, lindsay, will you just briefly introduce yourself and what you do?
Speaker 2:Absolutely. My name is Lindsay Wilson and I'm the founder of Positive Performance and the Mindset Coach Academy, and I have a four-month certification program for aspiring mindset and mental performance coaches. I'm also a mom to four daughters under nine, so one of those is more important than the other. But so keep busy with all that. And yeah, I was a former professional athlete and really my story, the reason that I'm here today, is because I got mental performance training. I was lucky to get it at 16 years old and really changed the course of my life. So I'm here paying it forward and, yeah, that's my mission, that's my passion. I believe in the transformational power of sports and I believe mental performance training should be taught and learned by everybody.
Speaker 1:Yes, I agree. So, for those of you that don't know, I went through Lindsay's certification back in 2019. So it was honestly the Kickstarter to the career and the business that I have now, and many of you who have been in our world or know about the elite mental game or maybe your kids have gone through it. This is really where it all started. So I am excited because we often get questions about how did you do it? What certification did you go through? How did you start? I get a lot of questions from a lot of moms who just want to know from themselves, or they want to help out their daughter's team, or they are a coach themselves and they want to add a little bit more to their coaching, and so we're here to answer it all. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:So I got my microphone on, you got yours on and, yeah, I mean, we've talked about this a lot over the years, but so many people come into your world and our world and are like where do you even start? They're Googling it, Maybe they find me, maybe they find you and they're like where do I even start? They get overwhelmed. There's a lot of information out there, a lot of different options as far as where to move forward, and I think the best thing to do would just be like what was the impetus? Where were you in 2019, prior to the certification? Where you were like huh, I think I kind of want to do this thing, maybe sort of like. And then you found us. Where were you like mentally? What were you looking for? Like, talk us through all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the first thing I think that's important about this is that I was a coach. So at that time I was a head volleyball coach, in my fifth year, I believe, taking over a highly successful volleyball program. And you know, I was a former college athlete and they don't teach you how to like being a college athlete doesn't make you a good coach and definitely doesn't make you a good mental performance coach. So you know, I started coaching and was learning all the things around like coaching, the actual sport, and then I had two seasons back to back where my team had made it to this like winner to state, loser out situation, but I had really talented athletes and we crumbled in that game and didn't make state two years in a row, like for the first time in history, you know, and I'm like gosh, so not the way you want to like, you know, make history Right. And so honestly, as a coach, I was like, okay, I've got to look at myself, I've got to figure this out, and I'm not sure how Lindsay like popped up on my feet but I was like, oh, maybe this is the thing you know like actual, like a whole, nother part of the game that I can be teaching and I was always interested in sports psychology. I studied it in my undergrad. I like had some of these tools as a college athlete. Most of you know my story about kind of realizing how important the mental side of the game was and how it impacted my volleyball career, but like I didn't know how to teach it. So when I came across Lindsay's stuff, I was like, oh, this actually could be like the roadmap. And as I like dug a little further, I was like, oh, and this actually could be a cool thing, not just for my team but like for other athletes in this area.
Speaker 1:In the beginning I was thinking very small. Like you know, I could be like the go-to mental performance coach for Clark County, the county that I live in. You know. I think there's like five clubs within like a 20 mile radius and like I could train them. And so my wheels start to. I'm like always although it was a teacher and a coach, like I just have always been like an entrepreneur at heart, like always had this goal of like having my own business and, you know, creating my own schedule and all of this. Then my wheels started turning into that. So I don't want to get too far into it. But, like that's where I was, I also had, I think I said, six months, but she was a year and a half. I had a year and a half old at the time as well. So I was like, ah, I would love to be able to have more flexibility. Although teaching is flexible in some ways, it's very not in other ways.
Speaker 2:And so I was like it'd be really cool if this was a thing. So that's kind of where the spark started. Yeah, I love that. I love that Because I think it's. I mean it seems sort of like comical now for you to have thought like really that small, but I think that's really where our brain has to go first.
Speaker 2:Like you know, in our certification or any of our like ultimate, like intro trainings we talk about like fishing in the pond you're in and really like I mean so many people probably watching this are like, oh, really. Like I mean so many people probably watching this are like, oh yeah, my daughter's club or the clubs in the area, I mean literally, I know you'll find this funny Like some people are like, are there too many mental performance coaches? And I'm like, okay, so if you go down anywhere like within 10 miles of your house to a club or a facility or a community center, is there a mental performance coach there? Likely not Right, and that exists everywhere in the world. You know like there are so many opportunities and so I just think that like that's a really important piece of all this is like, literally, even if you had just done that brand, I mean obviously you went so much bigger, you would have a really great business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean. And very fulfilling too. Yeah, yeah, being people, yeah, for I mean, and very fulfilling too. Yeah, yeah, people, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2:For sure. Talk to me about like cause I we were talking about this offline, but I think that and maybe you know, in a year and a half you're you're still sort of like. You know you've had a couple now you're still sort of like in that, like, uh, you know your brain's not necessarily on right quite yet as far as just coming out of baby mode. I think probably a lot of people that come into our certification have older kids, but if you could articulate sort of I see a lot of women wanting to get into this space because you know, whatever the word is there's like either they're feeling like dissatisfied with like the job either not working or the job that they have that maybe doesn't have the flexibility, or they have almost like this They've put so much time and energy and money into their kids, but they're like what's in it for me, like I'm ambitious. Maybe they've kind of swallowed it for a little while.
Speaker 2:A lot of us do when you have young kids and they're like coming up. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I do see that a lot and I'm just wondering like how you? Was it ambition? Was it like what was it that was like calling you, besides helping people, because that's important right the fulfillment of helping people. Yeah, yeah, that was there.
Speaker 1:And then also just the pain of like I need to figure this out for my team or I'm going to get fired as a coach, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But also I think like those kind of defining stages in our lives although my kids are still young I'm not at this, but I assume you know when you have a baby, like everything changes and your priorities change, things shift. And I think also I know a lot of moms in our world are looking towards like, well, my kids are going to be graduating in years and that's another kind of life shift that starts to happen, where you can start to reevaluate your priorities a little bit. So at that point I was in one of those like shifts, major shifts in my life, where I'm like okay, now I have a family and what do I want? This I'm looking forward to, like well, they're going to be in their activities and I want to be able to be present for all of that and I want to have a schedule that I can take off and go to their field trips. And I was motivated by that too, just this idea of being my home boss.
Speaker 1:And, like I said, I was just. I just always have had this entrepreneur like spirit in me that I like to build. I like I said I was just I just always have had this entrepreneur like spirit in me that I like to build, I like to create. To be totally honest, I was getting a little bored with teaching. I was like, okay, here, you know, and although entrepreneurship has its ups and downs, I just was kind of longing for something a little bit more. I would always spend like any free moment that I got. I was, like, you know, trying to like build. You know, this was kind of like after I learned the skills and the certification and saw what was possible, I was like building my email list and like reaching out to clubs and like every down moment, that's what I was doing and that's what I was like okay, yeah, this is something that is really holding me because of the lifestyle that I want and the purpose and the passion that I want.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Okay. So you went through the certification. Did you look at anything else like sports psychology degree or just doing it on your own? Or was it like you found us and you were like in yeah, that's a great question because I actually get asked that a lot too.
Speaker 1:I looked a little bit into sports psychology degree and was like, well, that's just not happening because I'm not spending another $60,000, another five years of like and you don't need a sports psychology degree to teach these skills. And so I was like, okay, certification just makes more sense. Like from that perspective, I already done enough Googling and piecing things together. Like I said, I have a teaching background, so I like curriculum, I like a roadmap, I like things laid out. I don't like just Googling, piecing things together, and I also pay for my time. So, like I had already wasted time trying to like cobble things together and like find random tips and try this, try that, and here is the way to make it. Like it's very time bound. I knew how long it would take. It was already proven. So there's that I don't want to like. I don't know how much we want to go into. I did look at two other certification programs, probably the other two that would pop up if you're looking into this.
Speaker 1:And to be honest, I was drawn to Lindsay because you were like me, like you know, form athlete. You're a woman in this space. I was drawn to the way that you taught and the way that you talk. I know that you're like you maybe couldn't. If you are in this space and you're looking around you maybe can't put your finger on what that is, but I'm like I like the fact that she is. The other two were run by men and you know she's the only woman in this space that's doing this, and so I was drawn to that and you know that you're a mom, you get it. So it's like I just connected on all those levels too. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, I appreciate that. So you looked at those and then you got certified and then what did you do? Because I think you know I don't know if we did this when you were in class, but like we really talk about I mean everybody looks at you and they're like I want to be Brianne and I'm like, okay, you know, maybe I'm not a dream killer over here, but we step-by-step it right. Like how can you get your first paid client? How can you make your money back from the certification? How can you have an awesome side hustle? And then you know you didn't leave your job for a while.
Speaker 2:So like talking through all those stages I think is really important, because you're not going to go from not having a business to leaving your day job in a few months. Like that just doesn't happen right, and for a lot of people, just the certification itself and like starting their own business and like making some money, is like what they want and what they need in their life. So I always think it's really important to talk about the different stages, because it's not just about the money, it's about who you get to become by pushing yourself through the entrepreneur journey. So can you talk about that a little bit Like the stages what excited you about them, how you started. I know it's kind of like an open-ended question, but I think you get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, totally Well. First, I want to back up even before that, because it was an investment for our family to even do certification in the first place. My husband is also a teacher and a coach, so it was like, okay, we really had to consider this and I wanted it. I think the thing that like took me over the edge and also forced me to be a problem solver in this area, like you just saying like okay, let's say you wait like a year from now, like certification first might be more expensive, and also like what's going to change in a year from now and I'm like I'm probably gonna be in the same spot in the post season, being like dang it, my team didn't make it to state again, you know. And also just all this opportunity that I started to allow my mind to daydream about was like I'm not gonna be able to do that If I don't have direction, I don't have a guide, and so I got really creative.
Speaker 1:I'm only saying this because I know that some people are maybe in the same boat as me for part of our like teacher development. You know there's funds that you can use for professional development. Same thing for the volleyball program. There's funds that help fund programs to help enhance our team, and so I took advantage of the money that was available. And it wasn't an enormous amount of money, I think it was like a couple hundred dollars each but I was like, hey, you know, I am using this as a teacher in my classroom.
Speaker 1:I'm also using this to greatly enhance my volleyball program. So, yes, I'm going to use booster funds that are available for this. So, and it was all I applied for, it got it, it's certified, and then we're not like I know people have opinions about like debt and all of this and we don't accrue unnecessary debt. But I did open up a credit card and because there was like this bonus you know, there's this bonuses when you open up a credit card and if you paid off within a certain amount of time, no interest we're very financially smart, and why so? Just, hopefully you know you got to know your your own financial situation.
Speaker 1:but for us it worked out great. I got my certification half paid for just in those efforts with the school district, having that bonus on opening the credit card and then just paying it off right away. So yeah, just just to let your wheels turn around like oh you know, before just writing it off like oh, it's too expensive, I won't be able to do it.
Speaker 2:So well and I think I love that story, Brian, because I think that's one. What I heard you say is it forced me to become a problem solver? I think look, you and I know as mental performance coaches, it's like once you decide something's not available for you, your brain shuts off solutions. Instead, you said I'm going to do it how? And then your brain figured it out and I think I imagine you were also, which is a really scary thing. I imagine the conversations with your husband were also around maybe not the beginning, because you were doing it for professional development but you're like okay, how can I first make this money back? Like, how can this pay for itself? Like when did you have that sort of mindset? And like, was that a scary thought? Was an exciting thought? Was it both? Like that's like holding your feet to the fire.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was. To be honest, I don't remember that exact conversation because my husband is very like he's like you'll figure it out, I know you will.
Speaker 2:But even with yourself, though, I mean. I imagine you were sort of like, oh no, now it's go time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I think that that started to set it Like I had ideas of how I was going to be able to do that, but it wasn't until I got into the certification. I was like, I don't know, I'll figure it out. But it wasn't until I got a vision. I was like, oh yeah, like this will definitely pay for itself, and it did. I can get into that here in a second, because I graduated in November and I got my certification paid back. Well, like it paid for itself in January.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, got into it to kind of answer your original question around that like got into it that first month it was great because it was all just focused on myself and you know my own mindset and my limiting beliefs around a lot of things in coaching and just just like me showing up in the world, and that was awesome. And then it got into like these very tangible skills, which was so great because I had my team in front of me. It was during the summer and I was like, oh, I could just use this on my team right now and the team loved it. Like it does take a little bit of like. You know, you've got to embody this and you've got to believe in yourself, which is a whole nother conversation. But yeah, you know, I started they were my guinea pigs and then learning the kind of the roadmap and like how these the of the roadmap and like how these the all the skills kind of fit together and it was just what I wanted because it was like here's your lesson plan and here's how it goes, Like you don't have to reinvent the wheel. You always said that.
Speaker 1:And then about like bringing your gifts to the world, and you know that was a little bit scary to kind of proclaim that I was like going to be a mental performance coach and that I was offering these services. But I did it mental performance coach and that I was offering these services but I did it. It was like this constant, like stepping out of my comfort zone, something out of my comfort zone. But my first big step out of the comfort zone was when I decided that I was going to partner with a club, like a local club that I had been affiliated with in the past. I had coached for this club and I approached the club director and I was like, hey, this is what I'm doing and I really think that this could benefit athletes, Do you think that I could take 20 minutes, or maybe I think it was 20 minutes? Can I take 15 minutes of your parent meeting? Yeah, and.
Speaker 1:I remember, like with you, I was like, what am I going to? They said, yes, but now what do I do? And so, which was great, because I was able to like bounce my ideas of like my presentation off of you and like, how do I collect email addresses at this meeting? And you know how do I do all this? And so, yeah, I went up.
Speaker 1:I'll never forget going up on stage for that parent meeting.
Speaker 1:There were probably 200 parents there and I kind of told my story.
Speaker 1:I talked about like the program I decided I was going to do like an eight week live via zoom group mental training, like session, and I was charging very, not very much, but yeah, I just kind of laid it out there, I gave them the opportunity to sign up for it. And that night I remember looking at the registrations and I was like, oh, my gosh, gosh, I made $4,000 on this, so that many people had signed up, because I was like, wow, this shows me a lot, there's a need for this, and people are gonna000 on this. So that many people had signed up, like four, cause I was like, wow, this shows me a lot, they, there's a need for this and people are going to pay for this and I mean it was, it was awesome. So I met with those girls for eight weeks, you know, we did a middle school group, we did a high school group, got to like, practice all of this and get paid for it. So anyways, that's a long, a long wind to go, you know I love that brand, though.
Speaker 2:Like okay, so you got certified and like you kept pushing yourself and then you had this big thing. And I just think about, like there's these milestones in our life, right, and like the you before getting on that stage, and then you like seeing $4,000 come into your account, like that is not a small amount of money, it's not as much as you made, but that's like to have that validation. I'm just interested in like do you look back on that and think of the you before and the you after, and like that feeling I mean, again, it's the money and it's the helping people, but like that personal jump for you, mm, hmm, like how do you reflect on that?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's almost like, and looking back, I'm like, wow, that did take a lot of courage. And I remember in the moment because you really just deal with the imposter syndrome of like, well, who am I to be saying that I can help athletes with it and all of that. So, yeah, it was a big like embodying the person that you want to be and, honestly, we teach athletes about this. But, like, you know, how does a mental performance coach that has like a bona fide business that makes money, you know, that serves people and is in alignment with their passion and has the lifestyle that they want, like how would that person show up to a stage? And yeah, I had to do a lot of that kind of work myself.
Speaker 1:You know, just I, I, I, even I, you know, I visualize myself on the stage, I practice like all of that. And yeah, I don't know if that's answering the question in the way people would want to hear it, but it did take a lot of like. Just you know, you do deserve this. You've put in the work, you have the credibility. It was kind of a lot of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean that. And so that I mean you know, as we talked about before, like I think it's seeing your sort of the stairs right, Like the levels that you went, like that was obviously a big one. And then what was sort of like the next jump for you? Like after that night I imagine the next day you're like you said you were like, oh my God, people will pay for this. Like I don't know if you remember at that point, are you thinking bigger than Clark County? Are you like, oh my god, I don't have to be a teacher forever. Oh my god, I get to set this example for my kids. Like, do you remember where your mindset was after that?
Speaker 1:I mean, I automatically went to like, oh my gosh, I could go to teaching part-time, which is so funny to look back at now that I'm like no, like yeah, that's that's how it works. Yeah, but it did. It does give the hope, and I think that's like that was.
Speaker 2:The key thing is that it provided hope for like the path forward and to keep investing right, like whether that was money or time or just your own sort of ego, right? I mean, I think that's the thing that a lot of people don't understand about entrepreneurship is like you do have to keep investing. Again, you can invest I know you invested in other coaching and like you can invest in that way but even if you're not investing money which you know, you and I agree that we should but you're investing time. You're investing like your own ego and your own dreams, and that's like a really scary thing. And you have to make sacrifices for your family probably a childcare or it's more on your husband or whatever and like to keep doubling down. I mean, that's the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Right Is like nobody goes, like we said, from zero to whatever. It's like you have these doubts along the way. So did you have doubts along the way? Or were you like kind of leveling up just slowly? I mean, at some point you kind of took off. But talk to me about that too. Were there any times when you're like, oh, this can't work, I don't know what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I think as an entrepreneur, we have that conversation with ourselves maybe once a week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even at the level that we're at now, like we're like okay, you just kind of get used to that and part of being successful is just staying in the beginning. I mean, I got to give a big shout out to my husband and you know I do have a co-founder, who happens to be my sister-in-law as well who our families. I mean we were both working. She was a manager at Boeing for 17 years, so we were both working 40 hour weeks in our real jobs, you know air quote, and then putting in another, you know, 30 hours on building this, and that put a lot of trouble on our families. And so there were some times where, you know, we had some tough conversations and my husband, as much as he, was like, yeah, I believe in you and I know you're going to figure this out, but like how?
Speaker 2:many more hours am.
Speaker 1:I like, yeah, are you? Am I going to be solo parenting for how many more weeks? Yeah, right. So, yeah, there were definite doubts and you know the comfort sometimes of that like steady nine to five, you show up and you get the paycheck, no matter what Well, barring, you know, but you know. So that started to look a little bit more appealing again. But, honestly, like I can say, you know, zooming out of those moments, this is just I can't imagine doing anything else with my life, with you know, my passion, my purpose is so aligned. You know I love the schedule that I have. But yeah, of course there were doubts.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, we kept learning, kept leveling up, kept going and from there, from that like first kind of live via zoom situation, we decided to create, turn it into an online course, and this is not everybody's path Like this was what we decided to do, because I was like we could reach more people Like to your question, did you think beyond Clark County? And I was like, well, yeah, we wanted to go online and and see, like, reach more. And so then we turned that eight week program into an online version that athletes could access via anywhere, and that was kind of the initial start of what is now the elite mental game. So that's where we went from there.
Speaker 1:I was still also doing one-on-one coaching on the side, which was great for just like some income, but also to learn about my market and just like with athletes. I was also training some teams on the side, including my own, but all of that was good just for like income. But to know more about like. Okay, here's what really works, here's what is resonating with athletes, yeah, so that's kind of where I went next.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean. So we've seen like all these, like the ups and downs, the peaks and valleys and everything but like where you are now. As far as like, I mean as an entrepreneur, if you know, you're not like at some destination, but where you are now in your journey, I just would love like a sneak peek of like or I should say behind the curtain of like how do you feel about yourself as a woman, as as an entrepreneur, as a mom, because that is the thing, right, it's like, yes, you left your day job, yes, you're making money, yes, you have time, flexibility and all of those things. But the real desire, I think, for a lot of us, as women, is to have purpose and to feel like we are, for some of us, pushing ourselves into these different comfort, out of these comfort zones, and like, how do you feel about yourself as an entrepreneur as you are right now, like having gone through all of this in the last few years?
Speaker 1:Well, my first thought goes to when you do own your own business and you're an entrepreneur. It's almost like I kind of I'm not sure if I knew what I was getting myself into and if I wouldn't know, and I'm not sure you know like well, that was tough. But honestly, as I said before, I feel so just kind of at peace where with what I'm doing, with who I'm impacting. And then when we talk about kids and my own children that are seeing me and they don't really know what, they don't really understand, they're like she works in her office and she puts up notes on the window like a few times a year. But now they're kind of getting to the age where I'm talking about this and I get to help athletes and that I have my own business, kind of like. You have your business air quotes, selling art and you're setting the prices of that and dating and you know all of that I'm like, that's like my mom gets to do, and you know on a
Speaker 1:level. So the fact that I am showing my kids to hopefully you know that you can be both. You can be a mom that is present and nurturing and also chase your dreams and chase your passions and have the life that you want, so I feel really good about that. I feel good about the impact that we're making in just the world of women's sports and girls' sports. You know, because at this point, now that we've had this program around for five years and we've had over 4,000 athletes come through, I get excited about the generational change that you know women's sports is having a moment right now, for good reason. But I'm like I feel really good about this purpose that hopefully we're adding to that generation of competent athletes that are, you know, just going to keep going through and impacting others.
Speaker 2:So yeah, amen to that. Any final thoughts. I learned stuff. I mean, I've known your journey, but this has really been fun for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say, if you are feeling that tug and that gut feeling of like yeah no that I want to do something.
Speaker 1:If you're feeling that, then I would pull that thread and see where that's leading and whether that be. I mean you have a webinar coming up and we're gonna be sharing all about that or just checking out the certification, whatever it is like. I would listen to that and we can have a million reasons why we shouldn't like the age of the kids and this and that, and you could make a case for it's never the right time, but you could also make the case for now is the perfect time. So, yeah, I agree with all that.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for sharing all that and, as you said, we have a webinar coming up on March 12th. I know you'll put all that information in the show notes and really I think you really hit the nail on the head, though, with like really pulling the thread. I think sometimes we have these goals and we're like, oh, I don't know where to start. Just start with our ebook which I'm sure you'll put in the show notes as well which is like how to become a mental performance coach, and really we have done it. You and I have done it, and I have taken over, probably at this point, 150 mental performance coaches, and many of them really knew nothing going into it Nothing about mental performance, nothing about business, nothing about marketing, selling, had a lot of limiting thoughts, weren't sure if they were in the right room.
Speaker 2:We've had a wide range of people go through the program.
Speaker 2:I do think what you will learn in our program is you're going to take it to the places where you have community and you have connections and you have network, and most people find that is in sports, but there's other places as well, but we do see things through the lens of sports, so I know, a lot of people find us and they're like, oh, this is what I've been looking for.
Speaker 2:You know, they looked at life coaching, they looked at health coaching or they started a business doing something else fitness or something and then they find us and like, oh, mindset sports, I can do this myself and we will really teach you. But, like you said, you don't have to jump off the deep end. You can do our ebook, you can come to the webinar where I think you're going to be on that as well, and it's how to launch your mental performance career in 2025. And we're going to break it down. So, yeah, you can just start and start. I think the thing is is what we can do is we can help show you quicker if it's the path for you, versus googling it, where you're going to get lost in Google land and YouTube and you're going to not know which way is up, whereas you're actually going to get answers with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's good. And one thing I didn't mention that you reminded me of is that I did not have a business background and Christina didn't either, my co founder, although she had like a business minor or something like that. They don't teach you, I mean that college, this online entrepreneur, like it's all. So, no, I did not have previous business experience. If you're like, well, she probably knew all of this, like, nope, I had nothing yep, yeah, what you did have was a will to learn all of it.
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, and, like you said, the the willingness to invest in yourself and bet on yourself and pay money to go there faster. Yeah, which is which is what it's all comes down to. So, all right, brianne, I don't know if you're going to sign up. This is, I don't know if I'm supposed to sign off or you're supposed to sign off.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, you're going to pass the mic back, so, yes, well, thank you, lindsay, and those of you who are interested can't wait to see you on the webinar. We will put all the information in the show notes, so thanks, lindsay.