Speaker 1: 1:12

Welcome back to the Raising Elite Competitors podcast. I'm Coach Brie, a mental performance coach for girl athletes. I'm so excited that you're here because I had the pleasure of interviewing Asia Mape. She is the founder of I Love to Watch you Play, which is basically a mecca for sports parents. So I know you're gonna enjoy this episode, because if you're listening to the Raising Elite Competitors podcast, then you are a sports parent, and whether you are just getting going on your daughter's sports journey maybe you're early in the stages, by the way, this would be an absolute awesome episode for you or maybe you have a lot of seasons under your belt, you're more in the category of Asia herself, who has three daughters, some of whom are still playing sports, some of whom are going off to play college athletics. This podcast is for you to help you know how to raise a confident and mentally strong girl athlete, and part of that is our role as parents and what we say and what we do and the environment that we provide for our athletes is so important in their confidence, and that's what I get to dive into in this episode with Asia today, we cover everything from you know how to not screw up your kid's sports journey, what to do if they want to quit really simple things that you can be saying, shifts you can be making, how to regulate yourself so that they have a good experience, like we cover it all and we go deep, so you're going to love it.

Speaker 1: 2:27

Now, before I get into it and before I properly introduce Asia, I do want to give a shout out to a mom in our community. Her name is Sarah. She is in the Elite Mental Game with her daughter. Elite Mental Game is our signature self-paced mental training program for girl athletes. It's proven to help them increase their mental strength and confidence in a really easy to use platform that athletes love. And part of the program is also resources for you as a parent to know how to navigate the whole sports journey, and Sarah shared this the other day in our private group. She said big win. This weekend at a hockey tournament in Colorado, my daughter played the best she's ever played and on our way home she shared with me that she has used what she's learned so far in the program throughout the weekend. I know there will still be bumps in the upcoming road, but I love the fact that she and I are both using these tools to get to a more positive place, making such a difference overall.

Speaker 1: 3:19

So, sarah, you really hit on it. There's two pieces to this puzzle. There's what we do and say as parents, and then there's also the skills, or lack of that, your daughter has as she is out there playing, performing and competing. Does she have routines? Is she aware of her self-talk? Does she have a way to come back from mistakes and get back in the present moment when she's dysregulated? Like? Those are the skills that we teach athletes inside EMG, and when they have these skills, their confidence increases because now they can be adaptable. They can meet any moment that they're faced with as an athlete. So congratulations, sarah. Keep sharing your wins. Love to hear it.

Speaker 1: 3:50

All right, let me introduce to you Asia Mape. She is a three-time Emmy award-winning sports journalist, a former division one basketball player and, most importantly, a proud mom of three amazing daughters, two of whom are division one athletes or soon to be, and one who's an incredible artist. She is also the driving force behind I love to watch you play a platform that's been featured by USA today the today show, nflcom, the bleacher report, sports illustrated play and Washington Post. With a deep passion for improving the youth sports experience. Asia uses her platform to empower sports parents with insights drawn from research, studies, books and the wisdom of coaches, athletes and psychologists. By combining cutting edge knowledge with her own personal experiences, she helps parents navigate the complex world of youth sports, making it easier to raise happy, healthy and successful athletes, while fostering a lifelong love of the game.

Speaker 1: 4:40

All right, sounds like a dream, right? I'm so happy that I got to sit down with Asia and our conversation. I know it's something that you will resonate with, so sit back or continue your walk or continue to drive wherever you're listening to this and enjoy. I know that you will enjoy this episode as much as I loved sitting down with Asia and chatting. All right, hi Asia, welcome to the Raising Elite Competitors podcast.

Speaker 2: 5:02

Hi, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 1: 5:05

Yeah, I am too. I think the phrase I love to watch you play is iconic, especially in the sports parenting world, so I am thrilled to be able to connect with you and talk a little bit more about your work and how you're supporting parents. So let's start there. Can you share with our audience who you are and what you do?

Speaker 2: 5:25

Yeah, of course. So I am the founder of I Love to Watch you Play, as you said, which is a website, a platform, social media, really designed to help parents sort of be the best youth sports parents they can be, and by that I mean helping their kids enjoy the sport, play it as long as they want to play it and get the most out of it, whether that's playing in college professionally or stopping playing after middle school if that's what they want.

Speaker 1: 5:52

Yeah, I love that. I love the emphasis on like their journey, because I'm afraid to get into this Like sometimes it becomes our journey a little bit. I mean it's we're part of the journey but we're not actually the athlete anymore. So we're going to actually talk about our part of the journey, but can you first pause on this phrase? I love to watch you play Like why is this impactful? Why is this phrase important?

Speaker 2: 6:23

So when we were at it, when I started the website, I had a partner and we spent a lot of time trying to figure out what would be the perfect name for the website and you know it was like team mom blog, like winning. You know, we're like trying to come up with an A. A lot of good ones were gone, but at some point we stumbled on a TED talk by John O'Sullivan where he talks about this and he says you know, the one thing that kids really want to hear after the game is just I love to watch you play. And it really isn't. People think it's John O'Sullivan's term, but it came from Bruce Brown in proactive coaching, who I love, bruce, and I want to have him on my podcast one of these days.

Speaker 2: 6:56

But he I think he said he explained it to me he was doing some research, sort of on his own, just talking to players that he had, and one young woman said this she's like, all I really want to hear is that they like love watching me play, and it just really captures the essence of really what it's all about. There's no expectation. There's no, you did this right, you did this wrong. There's no the kids needing either approval or disapproval from us. It's just so simple and so perfect and the only thing that we need to be saying to our kids after they play, after they do almost anything right Like our kids, as you know, there's such a joy and I think too many times we want to add in all these lessons and there are times for that but right when they finish doing something, I mean what a joy, what a blessing, what a gift that we get to enjoy that experience and see them do something that they love doing.

Speaker 1: 7:54

Yeah, that's so great. Yeah, I love that. I have worked closely actually with Bruce Brown for the past decade. I'm fortunate enough to live in the same state, only a couple hours away from him, so he's been a resource for me as a coach, because I'm a head coach, and so he's done workshops for us and we've collaborated. And then I just recently had John O'Sullivan on the podcast too. So small world yeah, that phrase, I think, does capture a lot of what our kids need in those moments. And you have three daughters right who have competed and played. Are they tired of you saying that to them? You know?

Speaker 2: 8:27

I don't think they ever get tired of that, as long as I'm not giving them like tips, and that's where I always have to be careful. I'm a mom Like I tell the people this all the time. The website was born out of a need. Right At the time I didn't realize it and I have learned I need it as much as anybody. So it's a struggle, you know.

Speaker 2: 8:47

I don't always feel inside like, oh, that was a joy to watch you play, and I think it's important to be real with other parents, important to be real with other parents. That's an ideal that we are trying to get to inside. Yes, we should. That is all we should be saying. Do we always feel that way? Not necessarily, you know. Sometimes you're like, oh, why didn't she, whatever. But I think that I struggle with that. I think most parents struggle with that. But it is such a beautiful ideal that we all should be striving for and saying more often than not but yes, no, I think when I say that and I try to remember to say it myself all the time, I don't think they're tired of it yet. No, they love hearing positive things.

Speaker 1: 9:29

That's great and well, we have a lot to cover in this episode. But I do want to ask again, because you just have so much experience when it comes to sports parenting as well, and you've worked with so many parents yourself who have multiple kids and athletes and all of that but what about in those moments? So when they're cause I get asked this question a lot too if they are super disappointed with how they played and it didn't go well, and saying, like I love to watch you play, it's probably like well, really, Like were you watching the game you know, or they're beating themselves up or they're even, for your approval, Like do you still just stick with some version of I love to watch you play, or do you kind of get into it with them?

Speaker 2: 10:06

That's such a great question and I mean I have that experience myself and every kid is different, right, and I know for myself my mom was like the epitome of I love to watch you play. She didn't even see me play one game in college. We lived like three hours from my college. She never came to a game. She had her own life. She's so supportive and loving. She'd come to all my home games in high school.

Speaker 2: 10:30

But I was so hard on myself and so I can remember I have this story that I'd love to share like I was in the car coming back from a big game and I had really played poorly and I was, as I said, really hard on myself. I was kind of stewing in the back and I remember my mom saying, oh but that pass you made in the second half, that was such a great pass and I didn't want to hear that. That like literally enraged me, if I could recall the exact feeling. So I think that's such a good question. No, you don't say that when they're guiding the conversation, which is what you always want, it's always about them and what they need and about listening more than anything. So I wouldn't say that to a kid who comes off the field and is pissed. I would listen, I would listen, I would listen for as long as they needed me to listen and then ask and I think this is where a lot of parents get it wrong we think we need to have all the answers. We don't. We're in a partnership with our kids. We don't have all the answers. It's what do you need from me? Because I saw some things that were really positive in that game. But if you're not wanting to hear those, I totally get that. Or what do you need from me? Do you want it? Are you asking for my opinion on what I saw? Even if, are you ready to hear things like it's asking them?

Speaker 2: 11:52

And of course, these are older kids. I think when they're little and they're young, I mean, some little kids are really hard on themselves already as well. But I think I love to watch you. Play works almost all the time until a certain age, but then it's what do you need from me right now? And a lot of times they just want to vent or they just want to sit quiet. They rehash the game in their mind. They rehash the game with the coach. They rehash the game in their mind. They rehash the game with the coach. They rehash the game walking off the field with their teammate. They don't necessarily want to come and rehash the game with you, so ask them what they want from you.

Speaker 1: 12:25

Yeah, oh, that's such such stage advice there. It is hard, yeah, cause you're like I have the answer. I've been in that situation, I know exactly how you're feeling and like we just want to help. But, yeah, easily run this thing into the ground.

Speaker 2: 12:41

Well, I think that's a great point. We just want to help, and I think most parents and I'm sure you've seen this too in your work have only good intentions, right, like that is all we want to do is be helpful, but it's like we get lost in kind of finding our way around how that looks and how to do that.

Speaker 1: 13:00

Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 13:01

Okay.

Speaker 1: 13:02

One thing I do want to hit on, because I still see this article from you circling, circulating Facebook and like in all of the groups, like at least a couple of times a month I'm like, oh, there's that article again from Asia. I love it, yes, yeah. Can you talk about this viral art? I mean a lot of your work and you're a phenomenal writer and it resonates so well with moms, but this one particular article about your daughter quitting sports was one that keeps surfacing. Can you talk about that? And just as much as you want to share about that experience of your daughter quitting and anything you would do differently, yeah, I mean so I think the title of that is my daughter quit youth sports and this is what I want all sports parents to know.

Speaker 2: 13:41

And that was probably five or six years into doing I'd love to watch you play, maybe even more. And it has been the greatest gift not the article, but that I was able to reflect and come to those sort of understandings, not just for me and my other two daughters so she was my oldest, unfortunately, we usually practice on our oldest but for also being able to share that, because I hear so often that people needed to read that article right when they read it, and so it's helped a lot of people, which is the everything to me and it's the reason I do this work. But it was so hard, and it was hard from all angles and all aspects of it, because my daughter was a great water polo player, and I think this is what happens to a lot of us. She dreamed of playing in college. She dreamed of being on an Olympic team when she was in seventh and eighth grade. This was her dream, and so we're a sporty family. I was a college athlete, her dad was a college athlete. We both worked in sports. Sports were our world. This is great. She's going to be an Olympian. We're going to do everything. I mean that clearly like whatever, we weren't really thinking she might make it that far, but we're like, okay, let's support this dream. And she was really talented. Well, at some point she changed her mind, right, like you're allowed to do that, and we couldn't sort of adjust to that change or I couldn't. I should only speak for myself around this stuff, and I do only speak for myself.

Speaker 2: 15:13

It was like she was at a school she had chosen for water polo. We could see it being a great entry into college for her, which I think a lot of parents think we loved the discipline of it, the grit. I used to write about a lot around water polo. It's such a gritty sport. And so she's fell in love with art and she would come home and try to do her art and her eyes would like water polo is a three hour a day grind. You know, imagine you're swimming, basically while you're fighting in the water for three hours. She couldn't do her art, she couldn't be in the school play. She started to fall out of love with it.

Speaker 2: 15:52

But now at this time I'm doing I love to watch you play and I make my game day muffins and I'm on the board of the team and I'm carpool mom and all my friends are on the team and we just weren't listening. Like honestly, it's really painful to remember and it was. It's still a thing, and I tell parents this a lot we think this pushing, this, pressuring that it's just in, like it's going to pass, it's just what we're doing right now. She still harbors a lot of feelings around this that we have had to work together to try to get through. And it really was.

Speaker 2: 16:31

I wasn't abusive, I wasn't a big screamer. It was just not listening and not making the changes. And I thought to myself so many times I don't know if I was trying to convince myself of this she's just being lazy, like she doesn't want to do it because she I it's so sad it's hard to even say those words no, her interests changed. She was seventh and eighth grade when she felt that way. Now she has different interests and I think the more time you let pass before you, really and I'm not saying every time a kid wants to, I'm not saying every time a kid wants to stop doing something, or every time they change their minds that you're like, okay, yeah, let's do this instead. Kids are on an up and down and they go through stuff and they're into it one minute and then their friends are all going out and they're missing that. And you have to be smart. I'm not saying just like every whim they have follow that, but when it's consistent over a year or more and their unhappiness is very clear, you need to make a change and you need to listen to them better.

Speaker 2: 17:34

And so that article and a whole shift in the website, a whole shift in my parenting, really everything I am today I owe to her and some of that pain, unfortunately, that she and I mostly she had to go through because she was getting I mean, it was affecting her mental health, it was affecting her physical health. She was doing something six days a week, 11 months out of the year, that she was hating and we were not allowing her to make a change on that. And so, yeah, it was hard and I think, as you said, it resonates with people, because I think we often find ourselves in these little push and pulls with our kids around things that are hard or things that they may be, you know, wanting to stop or try something new, and so I hope that article has helped people and continues to help people. I will say that she and I just recently had a discussion about it, and this girl is a worker and she's working at her art. I mean hours upon hours. She's working at her job right now at a restaurant. She works, and she does say Mom I do think a lot of it had to do with water polo.

Speaker 2: 18:45

So, like, as I try to lead parents and guide parents around this, it doesn't mean that we're doing the wrong thing all the time. But, as I said, if it's too long and it goes on, for their feelings are so obvious for so long, you really need to be able to listen and work with them and even before then take a break, like why didn't I let her have? Like you know, take a season off, take a club season off, take a week off. If they're young, go get ice cream instead of practicing that day. If they're feeling tired, like, listen to them. And so that's really, I think, just been one of the most impactful experiences for me as a mom, and it affected more than just sports parenting. It affects how I parent in general, and so I'm so grateful having gone through that opportunity, but yeah, it was hard.

Speaker 1: 21:05

Yeah, for sure. I mean I really appreciate you sharing so vulnerably because, like I think other parents are in this situation and also, given your background, I am in the same boat. It's like college athlete same with my husband and like our kids are young right now but, you know, are kind of in this pipeline of like, okay, you know they're being surrounded by sports, so you hit on a lot already. But if you were to kind of distill, there's kind of two questions that I get a lot from parents and that is how can I prevent my daughter from quitting her sport and how do I know when it's time to walk away? And I feel like in your situation it was like the signs were clear and I'm not sure there could have been or should have been any reason to prevent it. But any insights in those two areas?

Speaker 2: 21:49

Yeah, well, I definitely think there's a way to prevent it and I spent a lot of my time and work talking about this. Look, not everything. Someone's going to find joy in 24, seven and there's a lot of value in playing sports and I think, as parents, we need to not be the ones putting the pedal to the metal and forcing forcing that there is that balance. When they're younger and they want to go somewhere, there is that balance when they're younger and they want to go somewhere. A lot of it is common sense. You know what makes the most sense, but sports cannot be the end. All be all right, like family values, and I think, knowing your kid, knowing what they like, some kids even as young as 10, it is everything to them and that's something you have to value. It's really listening and understanding who they are. So if the kid is going to be devastated to miss his game and forced to go to his friend's birthday party, you don't do that Right. But, like if the kid is all about their best friend's birthday party, listen to them and make concessions that the journey that you're on, that so many parents are on, that I'm at towards the end now, is so long and so up and down, with highs and lows. What we really want to be is their support system. Through it, we want to keep them balanced through it as best as we can. We want to keep them loving their sport and loving what they're doing as best we can. And we do that by not pushing our own agenda, by listening to them, by having those hard conversations, by giving the time off when they need the time off, and by being smart, like doing our research, understand that if they play one sport over and over and over, too much, their bodies are going to break down. We are in a world of professional youth sports. We've professionalized it, and so you have to be that same voice in your kid's life.

Speaker 2: 23:48

You have to say no and look, you're going to feel, it feels bad, it feels like the world is going to take off and all make it to college and high school team. And my kid won't, because we're taking a season off of baseball this year. But you have to do it when it needs to be done, and you know what? It's a race to nowhere, just like that old movie that was out a long time ago. Because those kids that their parents just said no, we're not stopping. We're going to be behind, whatever. They're going to be burnt out and not want to play their senior year, not want to play in college, not enjoy it in their junior year when it's so fun. Meanwhile, your kid, who you allow the time off you listen to, they're going to be like sort of blossoming right around those times when they should.

Speaker 2: 24:38

You know, I had David Epstein on the author and he was saying we're creating these incredible 15 and 16 year old athletes. They're peaking at 15 and 16 and then their bodies break down and you see it all the time, particularly in the sports like soccer. I mean, I remember one year UCLA women's soccer team had four freshmen incoming freshmen out with ACLs. I mean it's because we're putting too much stress and pressure on their bodies. So point being is that you have to think of the long-term and not the immediate. You have to put away all those thoughts about keeping up with the Joneses and your kid is going to miss out. And you're whatever you're, they're on their own path. Do your research understand what choices you're making and how they benefit them or help them, you know.

Speaker 1: 25:28

Yeah, gosh, that's such good advice.

Speaker 1: 25:30

I'm glad I'm getting it right now.

Speaker 1: 25:31

But, um, you know, I think parents listening to like this is no matter what age and stage your daughter is in her sports journey Like this is just really good, solid advice to make sure that we're coming back to kind of offshooting from this.

Speaker 1: 25:47

In our, you know, work, we talk a lot about the post game car ride home and how that's the most memorable times and athletes career and the whole I love to watch you play and like a lot of that was talking about like the post, the post game, post-practice experience and how to navigate that. And you mentioned something offline about that's in the same vein of the parent experience in an athlete's journey and also preparing them. But the pregame, the, the let's talk like the ride to, the drive to and even if this is like a metaphorical drive to, you know, like for. But I do want to dive into this because I know it's an area that you're passionate about for really good reason Like let's talk about it. Let's talk about how we can be preparing ourselves as sports parents in the metaphorical drive to drive to.

Speaker 2: 26:32

Yeah, thank you. I know I said I'm really excited about this topic because I always spent I spent a lot of time trying to think what are actionable steps that we can. You know I can talk to you, I can talk to people, I write about it until we're blue in our face about how you need to be a better sports parent and you need to listen, you need to. But how do you do that? Right, like we're bringing ourselves to these games. I'm as competitive as anybody and like I'm always looking for ways to sort of internalize and take actionable steps on ways to be a more present, balanced parent, so that when I get to the game it's gravy and it's all good and it's hard to do because, like I said, we bring ourselves and I think it could even be bringing the argument you have with your boss in the morning you didn't sleep well. We're responding and reacting during these games from so many different parts of us, right, and some of it is deep seated in our own fears or our own experiences as a youth athlete or whatever, but a lot of it could just be the bad day. So I think this drive there, which I'm kind of obsessed with, and yeah, like you said, it's sort of metaphoric but it's not too. It's like that hour before the game is so important to prepare yourself. Are you doing to make sure that you're choosing calm over chaos, and presence over distraction, and encouragement over criticism things that will play out after. So, on the way there, what are you doing to prepare? And I'm sort of just obsessed with this little bit of time period and I think it's a mix of mindfulness, it's a mix of, like deep thought about what could be happening coming up in this next hour or two and how you're going to handle it. And it's sort of like going through the steps in your head and you know there's different things that are out there and I even have my own little bands that you can snap Forgot the word for that but there's bands that you can snap forgot the word for that but there's tricks that you can do.

Speaker 2: 28:35

But this is just one other sort of preparation and so it's really giving a lot of thought to all the different scenarios so that you get some tools in your toolbox before you sit down at that game, because, as you know, as a volleyball coach and a parent, that it's crazy out there the screaming at the referees, the screaming at the kids, the parent, I mean we have a person on our own team who's screaming at our own players when they're not packed. It's like the hope and the thought is, is that if we give this sort of time period this hour or 10 minutes or two minutes some thought to prepare ourselves for the game, that A we show up in a way that is obvious to not only our kids, so that when they swing and miss and strike out at the big moment and they look up, we're not like. You know that we've thought about how we're going to handle that moment and we're sitting in that moment with some grace and a smile and love and compassion and not angry because we hear all the other parents pissed off about our kids and just struck out. So we're preparing ourselves for our child. We're also setting a great example right.

Speaker 2: 29:49

The more parents that are on our team and on our bench and on our sidelines, that are bringing their best self to the game, the less it's going to be tolerated by anyone else.

Speaker 2: 30:00

You look around and if you don't have a bunch of screamers and a bunch of people complaining about the refs, it kind of quiets everybody down and then we show up after the game for our kid in the right way too, so that if they did strike out and lose the game for the team, that car ride home is no longer an issue, you know, and we can kind of bring them to a place where they should be, where they shouldn't be hearing comments from us about how to fix this or fix that. I mean, I just shared this quote. That was. It's so important when we criticize our kids, they don't get mad at you or they don't hate you. They hate themselves, and I think that's such an important one. So preparing yourself so that after the game you're not also adding to that sort of weight of their own as we were talking about earlier their own feelings about what just happened, so I don't know, I'm kind of obsessed with this little time period before you actually get to the game and getting yourself ready for it.

Speaker 1: 31:00

Yeah, oh my gosh. Well, it's like it's regulating yourself. It's like the personal development that we need, as like as sports parents, and we lean on a lot of Dr Becky Kennedy's work. She's a researcher in the parenting world, yeah yeah, she's great, and she talks about how our kids wire based on us and so when we are regulated and we have these skills, like our kids are able to show up more regulated too, and there's you know, there's a lot of research around that as well and like how we influence the environment of the parents and the players, the team, like there's so much there.

Speaker 2: 31:37

Exactly and to your point too. That's the other, the third wheel of this, or the third sort of prong, which is the kid will actually play better and be in a better state because of the way you're showing up for them and what you've done to prepare, like even with them in the car and I'm working on a book about this, but it's like a lot of it will be things that you will say to them or say out loud or whatever, so that, like you're both in that place and just your energy, as you're saying, your energy is different and you're not bringing fear and you're not bringing doubts and fear and angst and anxiety into there when they walk off to go get into the warmups, you know, and say bye. You're bringing calm and balance and confidence and presence. So yeah, I mean there's a lot to it.

Speaker 1: 32:26

Yeah, and what a gift to be able to give that for kids, and not just for the outcome, but just for them to be able to have like this calm, supportive, sturdy leader on the sideline that they can count on.

Speaker 2: 32:38

I know, and it's like I said earlier, this is an ideal, it's something. It's practice. Yeah, I don't know anybody who can do it all the time. I certainly can't. I have my highs, I have my lows. I try, try, try and I'd say probably at this point, 70% I'm good, 30% I'm not. And so, like I hate when parents, you know they get so down on themselves or they think that they're not a great sports parent. It's all about practice. It's all about trying and continuing to work. No, it's not easy. It's, or we'd all be great at it. You know it's hard work and it's just continuing to practice owning it when you don't get it right, when apologizing to your child, apologizing to the parents sitting next to you, that you scream when you screamed out, and moving on and doing better the next time.

Speaker 1: 33:29

Yeah, yeah, Okay, this is really great. Can you let us know where and I know you're still fleshing this out, but you still have a ton of great resources for parents, and so can you let us know where we can find more about your work? More resources so that parents can show up as the best parent they can be for their kids?

Speaker 2: 33:46

Yeah, for sure. Like I said, I am starting to work on a book about this, but I'm putting out a lot of social media all the time about this and a lot of the stuff we've talked about today. But more and more I'm going to be focusing on this, and so you know, the website is I love to watch you play dot com all written out, and that has a lot of blog posts. But then my social media is Instagram, at the I love to watch you play, and Facebook is at I love to watch you play written out. And then I have a newsletter too. So I have like 8000 subscribers to the newsletter and so weekly I try to send out some more thoughts about all this stuff on there as well.

Speaker 1: 34:26

Okay, how do people get on your newsletter? So the newsletter is.

Speaker 2: 34:29

There's a sign up probably annoying pop-up that comes when you're on the blog and there's also a link on the actual blog on I love to watch you play to sign up for it as well, okay, okay, I will link all that in the show notes.

Speaker 1: 34:42

Just want to make sure they have all of that and I can send you that link?

Speaker 1: 34:45

yeah, okay but yes, asia, this has been really great, so eye-opening and one that I'm going to continue. I'm just sorry, I'm just going to continue to listen to you as my kids keep going through their sports journey, just to remind, like, okay, this is what my role is and really you know what the work that we do to support the athletes themselves just go such, so hand in hand with your work is. There's two pieces of the puzzle here. There's us as parents and what we're saying and what we're doing and that influenced our kids' confidence so much. And then it's also like them having the skills themselves to be able to navigate like their sport, and we're not going to be out there on the field with them all the time, or that would be weird, but so I love it. We want to be, we want to be I know. Yeah, can I just put like a AirPod in your ear, okay?

Speaker 2: 35:29

that would be next level Right. I know I have some ideas for funny skits around that that I got to work on, but I did want to say I love your site and your content and having three daughters myself oh my gosh. They need it. It is confidence and what you're doing and I'm sharing all the time. If they're sick of anything, it's probably sharing your Instagram post with my kids because I think it's so helpful and so needed. So thank you for all the work you're doing around that.

Speaker 1: 35:59

Oh, thank you, and likewise Well, thank you again, asia, and thanks for sharing your journey. I just know that this is going to connect so well with so many of the parents that are listening, so thank you, thank you. I really appreciate it. Thanks for having me.