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Welcome back to the raising unstoppable. Girl athletes podcast. My name is coach Bri and elite competitor coach for female athletes. And I'm so glad that you're here now, whether you are just beginning this sports mom journey with your daughter, or you have a lot of seasons under your belt, or you're somewhere in between this podcast is for you to help you know exactly how to build confidence in your daughter and also so that you can enjoy her sports journey along the way. Now, today we have some extra special guests that we have Jill. And Mary here from girls mentorship. And if you have not met this dynamic duo by now, you absolutely should. So Jill and Mary are the co-founders of girls' mentorship, a personal growth and development company for teen and tween girls, where they are on a mission to help girls understand who they are. And what they stand for by teaching them. Self-confidence self-awareness and self-esteem. Through social, emotional based curriculum. They not only make the subject matter welcoming, but they are hilarious, which helps as well. So I can't wait to dive into this episode today where we are talking all about the essential role that moms and parents play in developing confidence in our girls.

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Now, before we get started, I want to give a shout out to a mom and an athlete in our community. Now this game might actually sound familiar because this mom who's going through the elite competitive program actually has two athlete to hunters. And a while ago I gave a shout out to her daughter, Devin, who was just crushing it. And now I actually want to give a shout out to Devin's sister, Ashley. So I got an email from their mom over the weekend, and I'm just going to read it to you because it honestly gave me goosebumps as I was reading it. So it feels like this. So then Ashley's the captain of her archery team at her high school. And typically the top or second high shooter the pressure has set in this year. As the team has gotten more noticed and expanded, she shot pretty well this season, but I can see where she's had a bad round or gets off to a poor start. It's a quick spiral, Saatchi, shoulders, eyes, welled up confidence, draining moms. You know what this looks like. She came home Tuesday after practice and tears state was the next day and was and following. I suggested she watched the week six snapback routine and the elite competitor program. She's very cynical, but ultimately agreed. As you spoke, she couldn't help, but crack a smile as you called out all of her habits. Devin even insisted that she listened to her whiteboard visualization on the way to school the next morning, before the tournament, she did amazingly well, both days she was calm and in the zone, she had three wonky arrows on Thursday and fought back to get successfully on track afterwards. She was even able to see where her mistakes were and how to correct instead of just sobbing. Her team qualified for nationals for the first time. And she tied for second best shooter on our team was 16th. For 10th grade girls and the state of Texas, Texas, which is a huge accomplishment. Thanks for being a huge help to both. My girls love this program so much. So I am just so proud. Both of you, honestly, for Ashley, for diving in and actually bird. Taking action in this area. So, so many athletes are in this space where, mistakes happen. Competition or tournament. It doesn't go how they want it to go. And then they just stay stuck there. Right. They beat themselves up and it just gets into this spiral of negativity. Actually didn't do that. She took a step into action on what she could do to control how she was going to respond. So. Really awesome job. Super proud of you. Keep going. All right. Let's get into this episode with Jill and Mary of girls' mentorship. Again, we get to go deep into how you can make sure that you're creating an environment for your daughter, where she is building confidence. As she grows. Go ahead and dive in. I hope you enjoy this episode as much as I enjoyed sitting down with Jill and Mary.

Breanne 5:08

All right. Welcome Jill and Mary to the Raising Unstoppable Girl Athletes Podcast.

Mary 5:13

Hello. Hi everyone. Hi Brianne. How are you?

Breanne 5:17

Good. I actually, the last time we interviewed you, you were on the podcast and it was actually a different name. Did you notice that we have a different name on the podcast?

Mary 5:25

Yes, it is. You got a facelift, you took a break. You said we're, we need to, we need to come back and like figure out what we're talking about. And I love that you did that cuz we did the same thing. We didn't know what to focus on. We thought we were doing so well being podcast hosts. And then we kind of looked around and we were like, you know what? We could do it better. Let's, let's pump the breaks and come back. And I love it. We refer your podcast out to a lot of sports moms in our community, so it's cool to know that we have you in our pocket to do so. It's a great cover. It's a great name. Girl, you got those reviews rolling in? Absolutely.

Jill 6:02

No, it's, it is. It, it suits you. I like the the level up, you know, the evolution of what you guys have been creating, and it totally, it speaks to your brand a hundred percent.

Breanne 6:15

Well, thank you right back at you. I am always an admirer of both of your works as well. And so for those that don't know you and your awesomeness, can you introduce yourselves and a little bit about what you do?

Mary 6:29

Yeah, of course. You're gonna hear two voices, the one speaking right now. Hi everyone, my name is Mary. I'm sitting right next to my business partner, Jill. Hi everyone. We own a company called Girls Mentorship, where we teach life and personal development skills to teen and tween girls through the lens of social emotional learning. So what we like to say in a nutshell is, We teach people how to people better, so it doesn't just include girls. It also encompasses their teachers, their coaches, their parents, because what we know as. Millennial women is that our parents only had so many tools in their tool belt, so it's not necessarily that they were doing anything wrong. We just know so much more now about how to really raise an incredible, confident, self-aware, full of self-esteem young lady than we ever did before that we also kind of have to reparent and reco and reteach. Some of the elder generation as well. The people who love them. Yeah.

Breanne 7:35

Mm-hmm. I love that you have that down by the way. And it's great.

Mary 7:40

Oh, thanks. My elevator pitch.

Breanne 7:42

Yes. Yeah, it's good. I need a practice Mine. our, our mission is, is right in line with yours to raise a generation of strong, confident young women. And, you know, we just use the vehicle of sport and I. Just both of your, your affect and how you come across, even though I haven't actually met you in real life yet. You know, like I said, at offline, you're a magnet for these young girls and, and their moms. So today we're talking all about confidence, which is a broad topic, but let's get granular with it all around what confidence is and how parents can help support confidence in their young girls. So, in your words, What does confidence to you, what does confidence mean to girls? Mentorship?

Jill 8:23

Ooh confidence to, to us is that who you are as a person is enough, that you love who you are and what you stand for, and that you don't waiver because you're trying to fit into someone else's box. So that can look differently really based off of every single girl that we interact with. But at the end of the day, confidence is really unique to the individual. The confidence in our words is that you know who you are. You're self-aware enough to love your body, your features, your talents, your skills and that you are a work in progress that you, you don't have to seek out perfection. Confidence isn't perfection. Confidence is constantly evolving.

Breanne 9:18

Hmm. Yeah, that is good. We always say confidence is trusting yourself. So that, I mean, yeah, that's, that's huge. And yeah, oftentimes we don't trust ourselves. We don't trust that voice inside of our head that is telling us something that we might love or like, or, you know, we don't trust our bodies. We don't, you know, and so, Yeah, that's huge. And in the work that, that you both do, where do you see, and what maybe what trends are you noticing in the girls that you're working with where maybe they're lacking confidence right now?

Jill 9:51

Ooh,

Mary 9:52

everywhere. I know. It's, it's really hard to pinpoint one specific thing. I mean, we had a workshop this past weekend dealing with stress and anxiety as the topic tools, techniques to give to them to deal with their triggers. We introduced the word trigger, so they actually had like a verbiage to go along with how they were feeling and tie that to a technique or skill. And we had this cutie little nine year old raise her hand and. I'm ashamed of my body. Mm-hmm. I body shame myself every single day. And you know, outwardly, she was incredibly confident, quote unquote. Mm-hmm. Like she came up and introduced herself and she did a little line dance when one of the songs was playing. And just to hear that come out of her mouth, to know that it's not all surface level is so painful for us to hear because A, we can relate to what she said. We can put ourselves back in her 9, 10, 11. Keep going year old shoes. Mm-hmm. Also knowing as much as we know now in today's present day with the pandemic and how. Hard that was on our kids, and now one of their main outlets is social media. Throw a dart. You can pick TikTok, Instagram, I mean, be real. There's new ones coming out every single day where you'd think we're more connected. As a society, we have more information yet. We're not, we're farther and farther apart. That means less confidence. That means less skills and tools to deal with the feelings in our head. Anxiety, depression, mental health. All of those statistics are trending north. It's, it's every little thing. Girls will stand to such an incredible chance to improve themselves by even opening the door to have a conversation about what confidence improvement looks like. Mm-hmm. Yeah,

Jill 11:39

And I was just gonna, I was just gonna jump in because when we start our workshops, we always ask, what do the girls wanna achieve? Like, Hey, this is the topic that we're talking about, but really, why are you here? What, what's, mm-hmm. What's something that we can measure at the end of this workshop? To say, Hey, did we achieve this? And nine times out of 10, every single girl says they want to be confident. Yeah. But when we ask them what confidence means to them, they can't define it. Mm-hmm. It's like, well, I just wanna be more confident. And it's like, well, What does that mean to you? And then it's like, well, I wanna show up differently in my body language. I wanna look people in the eye. I actually wanna smile at people. So confidence means so many things to every single person, but when you ask girls to identify what it means to them, they get stopped in their tracks. Oh yeah. They're like, well, I don't actually,

Breanne 12:36

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So in your workshops, when you kind of nailed that down, do does it get more clear for, for the girls?

Mary 12:43

Oh, a thousand percent. Yes. Yeah. Because then they can see themselves in the example, and when one girl raises her hand to say something about body shaming, whether she's doing it to herself or someone else has done it to the other participants, they can automatically relate to it and find themselves in that story. So it's almost like a light bulb goes on a, they know that they're. As isolated as they've made themselves feel. By knowing that other people also struggle with the same things, and B, now they can put a name to it, they can put a face to it. They can put, like I said, that shared language to it in knowing that, oh, Okay, so I'm not the only one who struggles and now I understand how to verbalize it and maybe what tools and techniques to pull out of my toolbox to deal with it instead of shoving it down, not talking about it, isolating myself, numbing my feelings, not saying anything to my parents. Now they know that there's a route to take in order to feel better about where they feel like they're lacking. Yeah.

Breanne 13:44

Oh, that's amazing. Okay, so I kind of wanna, I mean, I would love to come over to your workshops. It sounds awesome, but can you take me through, you know, they're kind of, they, they get into your workshop and they're feeling not confident. They want to become confident. I'm assuming that they leave feeling really fired up and jazzed about themselves and they feel confident. They probably like say that out loud. Can you take me through like what the process they experienced through that beginning to end?

Jill 14:09

Oh man. Yeah. It's, it's true. Every single girl looks like a deer in a headlight like, oh my gosh, I'm so nervous to be here. I don't know what to expect. And right away, Mary and I really tried to break down the walls with them because we know if we can show up in our most confident version of ourselves, that's gonna give girls permission to do the same. And that's where we build trust with one another. Mm-hmm. But at the end of the day, we want them to know that. they take time to go to school and learn new skills, whether that's math skills, science skills, social studies skills, constantly, they're practicing their academic smarts. And then after school, they go and do their sports smart. So maybe they're in dance or gymnastics or volleyball or whatever that is. But without practice and without repetition, you're not gonna get better at the thing. Trying to do. Mm-hmm. So we like to relate what we teach to the girls as practice as well. So you have to practice your emotional and mental wellbeing skills. You have to practice these things. And if you wanna be confident, well you gotta do these things every single day. And. In, in order to grow in your confidence, and that looks like a ton of different things. It could look like building your resilience muscle. It can look like overcoming obstacles. It can look like bouncing back from failure, negative self-talk, positive self-taught, you name it. So what we try to do in our workshops is really bring a theme and have it be super simple and digestible for them to understand what it is we're talking about and really break it into a formula so that they can walk away being in the practice of what it is that we're teaching them. Mm-hmm. So an example of this, this past weekend, it was resilience. It was, okay, we are flexing. Reflecting our resilience skill or our, our resilience muscle. And in order to achieve resilience, we broke it down. We gotta overcome, we gotta we gotta talk about what adversity is. We gotta talk about having a positive outlook. And is it easy? Heck no. It's not easy. This work is not easy, but the more that we can talk about it and talk about hard things, the easier it will, it will become when those hard. Pop up in their lives. Mm-hmm. So resilience was the theme and we said, okay, here's the formula. When a situation happens and it's bad, you then are triggered. Response. You start to feel something in your body, in your mind, whatever that is, and then that equals you to have a strategy to pull from and try on. Mm-hmm. So that was it. It was like, let's give them a formula for them to practice so that it's easy. When they go into school this week or when they go into their sports and they, they lose a game and they're really hard on themselves. Mm-hmm. So that is our intention is it's useful, it's bite size and that we don't overcomplicate it.

Mary 17:24

And then we gave them three simple tools. So the strategies, equation. Was three simple things that they could work on on their own time. And then because of the age range, we always take 'em through an activity. So get their zoomies out, make sure they're not just sitting there staring at us like they've, we don't want 'em to feel like it's school right now. We want 'em to talking at them. We want 'em to feel like it's. The School of life, but we also wanna introduce them to a brand new way of learning. Mm-hmm. Because all they know is going to school from seven 30 to three 30 every single day sitting there asking to go to the bathroom. So we really create a space where they're allowed to practice autonomy. They can take off their shoes, they can go to the bathroom without asking us. And then at the end or in the middle somewhere, wherever it fits in, we make sure to bring an activity to them where they can get up and interact with one another. They can problem solve, they can really like, use all of their senses in order to figure this out. Mm-hmm. And this time around, it was making stress balls. So we got water beads, we had balloons, we went outside and we had them make something that they could then take home to deal with stress. Nice. What, what's their, you're not kidding. 10 to 13. Okay. Younger, if they're like cleared by mom, like she will absolutely participate. She will be totally fine to hear it. She'll be totally fine to sit there for three hours. And then that 14 to like 18 is kind of where we're, where we cut off cuz. They're in a different, they're in a different head space. Yes,

Breanne 18:54

absolutely. Yeah. We have the kind of the same thing going on. That's amazing. I mean, can, can you imagine what a difference it would be if we had workshops like that and these skills when we were 10 to 13 years old?

Jill 19:06

we ask ourselves that all the time. Like, man, if only this would be so awesome. We would, yeah, we would probably be in a different position, but. Like us not having people like us when we were growing up is exactly why we do the work that we do.

Mary 19:24

Well, and you're not kidding cuz the girl who said something about body shaming herself at the beginning of the workshop was one of the girls who was most verbal about saying, this was the best day of my life. Oh my gosh. And she left saying that to her mom too. It was like one of the coolest moments for us. And it will never stop being a cool moment for us because we realize what an impact we're making on her life. Yeah. In just a small amount of time. Mm-hmm. Like she's gonna use these skills for the rest of her life because she learned them in one three hour sitting with a couple of random girls that she didn't know prior to that. Right.

Breanne 19:56

Yeah. Oh. Actually gave me goosebumps and maybe tear up a little bit. You guys are doing awesome work. The other thing, you know, you say they leave, so it's like they say, this is the best day of my life, you know, this is amazing. And then we go home. So we're in, you know, that's, we have moms that are, listen, like moms listen to this podcast. And that's part of the equation here, we just have to be honest about that. We actually shifted our business, about two years in. We were only athletes, you know, only only working with the girls. And then we realized what you guys have, have all, or we've talked about is that we can teach athlete skills all day. But if they're going home and they're not getting that message reiterated or they, they're having a parent who is actually like, undoing some of this work by what they say. Yeah. Before, during, and after the games. Then like some, a lot of this is lost and so we actually like changed our whole business. Let's talk about that, like what role do, what role do parents play in all of this?

Mary 20:55

The biggest, the biggest role, the most important role, right? We're all athletes on this, on this call, so you can relate to this. It would be like going to the gym for one hour of the day, that's one 24th of your day, and then spending the other 23 hours at McDonald's. Expecting change to happen, right? Mm-hmm. So I'm throwing money at you to fix my daughter. Why is it not working? I have to say it that way because that's how it's said to us. When we have phone calls, discovery calls, email exchanges, when somebody finds us for the first time, it's not uncommon for them to language it in that way. I'm desperate. Fix my daughter. And it's hard to point the finger back at the parent. It's a necessity to say you have to look in the mirror because the most important work that you are going to do is on yourself. Because if nothing changes, then nothing actually changes. And it's hard because of that old saying that you can't teach an old dog new tricks. Like, why are we the way we are? Because our parents were that way. We are programmed the same way that we were raised, the same disciplines, the same mannerisms, and as human beings. Psychology says that 95% of our day is spent on autopilot. So if we don't know what needs to be fixed because we don't know what we don't know, then we're not gonna be able to fix it. Mm-hmm. So the self-awareness piece for parents is the most important piece in this equation, in our opinion, because they can't just expect to put their daughters in a program or throw money at something and have them come home changed if they're not willing to also be in the work and do change themselves. Mm-hmm.

Breanne 22:40

Yeah. Couldn't have said it better myself. That that's awesome. And so what, what are you noticing in terms of, parent support and how parents can work in this direction of self-awareness? What are you finding is working?

Jill 22:55

Oh, of what's working? curiosity. Honestly, when, parents are curious about the work that we're doing, that gives us hope, we're like, okay. Because then we get to have a conversation with them around what kind of knowledge do they have around these type of skills or conversations that we're bringing to their daughter. But if they're not curious or if they're not interested, it's a red flag right away. Because we're like, oh my gosh. To Mary's point, they're unaware of being unaware. And more parents unfortunately walk around that way. And we have to remind the parents that we work with. You know, more things are caught than taught. Mm-hmm. So what you are doing at home is a total reflection of who you are at home. Mm. And your daughter is starting to, pick up on these little nuances or these behaviors, or maybe she's noticing who not to be, and then being really deceitful and lying and, and being, somebody that you don't want her to be. The best part, the hope is when there's curiosity and, Hey, I, I actually have never practiced these, these skills either. And it's like, okay, well we will be here to support you and we can't be everything for everyone. Yes. So we stress that if girls wanna grow in their confidence and they need to practice and practice and practice, parents also have to adopt that same mental. Of being a learner, how do they become a better parent? What are they doing that is growing them in that realm? Because if they are, if they're working, you know, I'm sure at their job, they're constantly having to learn and grow and feel stretched to, you know, to to be better at their job every single day. That same mentality has to be in our parenting.

Breanne 24:51

Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Jill 24:53

Yeah. What are the, and I was gonna say an easier set than done. We don't always see the parents who, who who want to hold the mirror up to themselves because they're like, at this point I'm, I'm old. Mm-hmm. We hear that a lot. It's like, well, I'm, I'm kind of already, you know who I am. Right.

Breanne 25:11

Yeah. No, I, we hear that too. And what's actually pretty cool is that the, the parents that come into our program also are seeking this self-development. For themselves. Like there's this personal development for themselves and you know, they start to realize really quickly, like my daughter's confidence is a reflection of mine. My, my, what I say out loud actually becomes a lot of her self-talk. And so we talk about that a lot. Are there other behaviors that you see are directly correlated? Either like, I guess positively or negatively, like mom or parent is doing something, maybe not thinking much of it, but daughter is picking it up in a way that's impacting her confidence negatively.

Mary 25:46

Oh, a thousand percent. Yes. Yes. All of that. Speaking our head. Well, and being business owners, you really have to refine like who you're marketing to, who you're speaking to through your copy. And recently we've kind of identified four different categories, four or five different categories of parents around. Who seeks our services and what's their why behind seeking our services. So you've got the mom who's like the cheerleader. She's like, anything my daughter needs a hundred percent. But there's almost like a curtain there of like, yes, I wanna support, but I am not educated in the realm of what personal growth and development means, and I'm not necessarily interested in it. Mm-hmm. And I'm here just to, I'm here to support you. Go girl. It's your story. I'm just it's your movie. I'm just starring. There's the parent who like wants to live vicariously through her daughter, and I almost imagine this to be the mom and mean girls, right? Like, I'm not a regular mom, I'm a cool mom, and you know, she wants to like be everything that her daughter's being because she wants. To be friends with her daughter as opposed to being parents to her daughter. Mm-hmm. There's like the mom who is straight up work, no play eyes on the prize. It's goal oriented. If you're not getting a's, you're not going to college, you're not following in my footsteps. So it's almost berating where, which. Doesn't make the girl wanna come to that mom to tell her things about her life. It's almost then they're hiding things, right? Yeah. So there's a couple of different ways in which we have to, we've learned that we have to speak to parents to get them interested in our work based on how they are at home, and consequently based on how their daughters are then showing up in life positively and negatively, as you pointed out.

Breanne 27:31

Yeah, that's good. I think we have, we, I think we have the same mom, the same the same time, you know, cause yeah, it's the same. And the thing about us is that we actually, like, it's a non-negotiable in our program. Like if when you sign your daughter up, you're actually signing yourself up too to 10 weeks of personal development. And so we're like, no, you're on board. But what would be like, I don't wanna say ideal because it's like we're all in different spots, but like, what is the most healthy, the healthy. Relationship, I guess. So that. Our girl, I would say girl athletes, our girls are, are developing in this confidence in actually getting, you know, that support from their appearance, knowing that like, we're not, we're not gonna get it right all the time, but so how do we walk that line of like, we know we're gonna mess up, we are probably gonna have provide some topic of therapy for our kids as they get older anyways. Like, there's always gonna be that. But how do. how do we walk that line? I guess it's a big question.

Jill 28:28

It's a big question. And one word comes to mind for me,

Mary 28:31

it's empathy. And the other word that comes to mind for me is also an E word, which is ego. Ah.

Jill 28:37

And I was gonna say one more E word and it's expectation.

Mary 28:40

Oh, wow. E times three. Yeah. Whoa.

Breanne 28:44

Let's talk about

Jill 28:44

those. Talk about those, yeah. Empathy. Well, and what we, what we, what we've seen. With certain moms or parents or caregivers, is their expectations of their daughter is, it's through the roof. It's insane. Yeah. And their daughter is constantly trying to live into who their parents expect them to be. And that's where the disappointment comes in. That's where the pressure comes in. The negative self-talk, you name it. So just knowing that your. Yes. Are they an extension of you? Absolutely. But they are their own person, so it's allowing them to live their own life in their own way without the judgment, without the pressure, without the unrealistic expectation. So that kind of goes to the ego point,

Mary 29:37

right? Well, and what we have found a lot of the time, and going back to our, even our own childhood, The expectations are often unspoken. Mm-hmm. So we expect things of our kids, but we don't sit down and actually talk to them about what those expectations are and why we're setting them. So we can either have the kids buy in or level set with them and meet somewhere in the middle with what they know they're capable of by Yes, we wanna challenge them, but we're, we're price, we're pricing them out of the game. Yeah. So when they don't, when they don't hit these expectations, we have ego around it. Mm-hmm. Like they're disappointing us. Right. Mm. They're making us look bad with the grades that they get or the trouble that they're getting into. And that's when I, when our ego comes in, cuz we should be able to raise kids on our own, right? This is my child. I should be able to know how to do it, yada yada. Our big thing in that is it takes community. It takes more than one person to raise a kid. You need to be your teacher's best friend. You need to be on the sideline with your coaches. You need to be supporting in whatever. you have capacity to support knowing that several other people's opinions and expectations and touches can help raise your child 10 times better than you can raise your child on your own. And knowing that that is okay. Hmm.

Jill 30:54

That's where the empathy piece comes in to just say, you know what, like it's, it's removing everything like that you expect and. Being with your kid, because if you can't, if you can't walk in your kid's shoes, they're never gonna wanna come to you for anything. Mm-hmm. And that's hard because you want your kids to see you as the soft arms to land in, and sometimes parents aren't. Mm-hmm. So that's when, you know, some stuff really gets in the middle of that. Mm-hmm. But empathy and, and being able to. Just set your expectations on this, on, on the shelf to, to really be eye to eye with your daughter to say, I love you and I'm sorry. I can't tell you that that isn't gonna be painful because I don't know, like that's your experience. So it's just saying, you know, I'm here for you. I love you, and that's. That is, that is so much harder than than anything else because we're like, oh, you know,

Mary 31:58

just, you're fine. You're fine. It's pick yourself up. And that's totally invalidating. Mm-hmm. And we also don't. Often take ourselves back to the, their shoes, like feeling those feelings for the first time or disappointment or love or whatever that is. Like we all felt feelings for the first time and it was overwhelming, and hormones are racing and our brains aren't fully developed. We have to remember what it was like to be that age, experiencing those things for the first time, if we are going to be good at empathizing.

Breanne 32:33

Mm-hmm. Ugh, that's such a good point. And something that I forget too as a parent. I'm like, come on, get, this is not a big deal. Get

Mary 32:41

it together. What the heck? Yeah. Yeah. It's a big deal.

Jill 32:44

It is. And it's a practice. It is a practice for all of us. Even the ones teaching this work.

Breanne 32:51

Yes. Yeah. Absolutely. Oh, well this has been really awesome. Always inspired whenever I talk to the both of you. Can you. Well, first of all, is there anything else that you feel on your heart to share with the moms that are listening?

Mary 33:06

You're doing a great job. It's one of the hardest jobs in the entire world, and none of this, if you're hearing it and you're getting a ping or a stab or you're tearing up, none of what we're saying is to make you feel wrong or bad about the job that you're doing. Our whole thing, what Jill and I will say through and through and through in every situation that we come into is we were put on this planet to raise the group average. So I know challenging people doesn't feel comfortable. It doesn't, it's not fun to hear, and we're only doing it to help you raise your average because we know you're capable of more. We know you're capable of not feeling as badly as you do after the fights that you get into, or the, the things that you missed out on or what you could have should have. Done differently or better. None of that matters, but you get to start today and really work on yourself and your self-awareness in order to improve your kids' self and self-awareness because you have the tools to do it. So take 'em, take 'em, use 'em. You're not too old. It's not too late, right? You are the only one that can, can make a difference in your life, which makes a difference in everyone else's life around you as well. Mm-hmm.

Breanne 34:19

Yeah. Never underestimating the work that when you change your internal world, how that changes the external world too. So, yeah. Cool. All right. Well, where can moms find you and potentially even come to one of your workshops?

Jill 34:34

Well, we live in Scottsdale, Arizona, so if anybody's here, we do mom and daughter events. We host monthly workshops for our girls, and we're gonna be hosting our, our second annual summer camp in June and July. So we would love, love, love to see you in person. And if that is not obtainable, no biggie, you can find us. We're pretty active on Instagram. I don't wanna say pretty, we are very active on Instagram. You can follow us at Girls Mentorship over there. And our website is the same www.girlsmentorship.com where you can read up on who we are, what we do, what's coming down the pipes, all of the good stuff. We would love to stay connected and meet some new moms and build our community of awesome moms, parents, girls.

Breanne 35:25

Yes. I love your newsletter too. So moms, you should definitely go find them at Girls Mentorship on Instagram. Send up for their newsletter. You've got great things you can have two times a week now, right? Is that what I saw?

Jill 35:35

Yeah, we're doing it.

Mary 35:36

Oh, we're really, we're getting in people's inboxes.

Breanne 35:40

Yeah. Yeah. So for sure. Great resources. Well, thank you Jill and Mary. Always a pleasure to have you on. I really appreciate your time.

Jill 35:48

Thank you. Appreciate it. Bye everyone.